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Peter McCormack
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Something I posted on Twitter but I would be interested in perspectives here. I am not trying to be dramatic or undermine the true horrors of socialism, it is just how it feels.

"When calling the current government socialist, there are those who will laugh at the idea this because it doesn't meet the true definition of socialism, you know, whereby the state owns industry, blah blah blah.

This is why I call it the "New Face of Socialism" as the outcome is the same. If you are a business owner in the UK you are essentially a slave to government as high taxes and massive regulation reflect the same principles of socialism-wealth redistribution and centralised control of society.

If it helps, we can call it"Bureaucratic Socialism" or "Backdoor Socialism"...whatever you need to justify you voted in a bunch of commies. Life is so much easier if you admit you fucked up.

This is a hill I will die on...reject them all!"
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Ryan Reynolds · 107w
Caveat that I’m in the US, so my exposure to your government is through what I read…. I tend to a see Socialism at or even below the level of state control/intervention where the UK is. The ‘state owns everything’ definition is more strictly Communism in my view. Now, to stir the pot, here...
makrokoppen · 107w
I dont see the drama. These perspectives appear legit.
Cleitus 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ₿lack ╺⃝⃤ ⚫ · 107w
Sometimes it feels like we’re all drowning in a sea of word salad because nobody can agree on definitions anymore. It’s almost as if language itself is breaking down. That’s all I’ve got, sorry. I love your work Peter.
Trivium · 107w
https://m.primal.net/LKvq.jpg
Zaikaboy · 107w
Do you truly believe that your vote counts? Do you think that the colour of the cloth makes the coat less or more effective in keeping you dry. If voting was a means to change things, it would be forbidden. You are correct in referencing slavery. We are all property of the state. Therefore anything...
curt finch · 107w
the USA is hardly better at this point 46% of gdp goes to state federal or local government so it's 46% communist I'm not saying the government is useless but they could probably do all that for 5% if they were run like a business
Hurvajs Rumcajs · 107w
Yes, it is a version of socialism for sure. It's not as absolute as what we had here in socialist Czechoslovakia, when you couldn't own a business and working for the state was mandatory (if you were in a pub or cafe during the work hours, the police would check you and escort you to work). What the...
Ben Arc · 107w
State become superfluous in "true" socialism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withering_away_of_the_state
protom · 107w
Not sure about GB but the EU is definitely on its path to Fascism. The distances between Socialism, Communism and Fascism are just the steps you go down to reach Authoritarianism. The Leviathan has become loose again.
nostrich · 107w
You can call it a million different names. It’s all the same shit. Unproductive people taking things from productive people.
Not a Polar Bear · 107w
You move into a new neighbourhood and get a card through the door… Bureaucratic Socialism Welcome! The local boys will be round soon to take most of your money for local infrastructure and charitable causes with which you might or might not align. Capitalism Welcome! The local boys will be roun...
old man shouts at mahdood · 107w
My 2 sats: Any govt that enforces its civil/statutory (often convoluted manmade laws) thru violence or threat of violence is facism…this would describe every govt of developed nations and most govts on the planet. Socialism is a populist movement based on platitudes and promises of a better lif...
Jameson Lopp · 107w
It's the Social Welfare State, bruh. Not 100% pure socialism, but certainly somewhat socialist.
Brett · 107w
I think you are 100% correct here. I’m the US they don’t even hide it, they call themselves democratic socialists. I like bureaucratic socialism!
nostrich · 107w
You might find this interesting https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Left-turn-ahead.pdf . It's not looking good for business/citizens in the UK for the foreseeable.
MyD0j0 · 107w
The Regulatory State is entirely intended to control the means of production. Just because it is more hands off than direct control, doesn’t make it less socialist.
Judge Hardcase · 107w
When industry isn't owned by the state; but is subjugated to the state, that is an aspect of fascism - which refers to itself as a form of socialism.
Cody · 107w
Just got out of Thr Museum of Communism 😂 100% agree
TuvokSeed · 107w
well said some will never get it i wonder why
nostrich · 107w
Having a fire department is a socialist policy. Not everything is black or white. There are many greys.
Adam O’Brien · 107w
I think it's more accurately described as a corporatocracy. Basically communism, for businesses not individuals. Where the state are basically in control of the businesses and it makes more sense to lobby the state than spend money developing and marketing your products.
ld50 · 107w
the real head fuck is how many people seem to think govt is going to help out with all their percieved problems
TheBitcoinBattery · 107w
The US Dollar is histories most powerful and influential form of socialist wealth redistribution ever invented.
Peter Heino · 107w
Same in Germany: And it's even funny how so many people recognize bureaucracy as the problem. But they're missing the Point there. It's bureaucracy with socialism
helpfuljoe · 107w
Beaurutocracy perhaps
darnzen · 107w
All government is parasitic. A bloated tick sucking the productive energy out of the population.
Room34 · 107w
Chris Hedges calls it 'inverted totalitarianism', and i think his view is pretty accurate.
mleku · 107w
price controls, licensure and regulation are literally fascism national socialism did not entail government owning production either and it should be pointed out that government granted monopolies and price controls were first pioneered by the british empire between 1200-1600, the era of "mercanti...
forwardsteps 🧡 · 107w
Onya, Peter. :) Love your work and commitment. Thank you for everything you do. Yes, our governments are now evil and have gradually become “rulers” rather than “representatives”.
Blissful Sats · 107w
It’s amazing how we’ve been slowly poisoned by this anti-human movement …
Matt · 107w
Been loving to watch your perspective broaden as you've had to deal with your local government. Keep leaning into that. In regards to I think it was Odell discouraging you from running for Mayor - I totally disagree. You will be exposed to many of the festering issues that plague all local Democrati...
Rafe Gauss · 107w
Why give the pig a new name? Mises long ago called it interventionism.
The Big D-Base · 107w
We get the Gov't we deserve
The ₿itcoin Artist · 107w
Why not just post it here first? Feedback here beats twitter every day of the week no?
JeffG · 107w
Feel true to me.
Mudgestein · 107w
Just adding to all the comments (on Damus) What a smooth looking reply thread!👍🏻👊🏻 Go Pete!
Danny 👾 · 107w
Spot on, Peter. Socialism by any other name still smells like tyranny. 👏
hopey · 107w
This is often used elitist trick that is fundamental problem with communication. Two people communicating, you got huge information and computational storages sending messages through narrow lossy channel. It is impossible to send the true meaning of the message, if the recipient doesn't want to und...