Damus
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I'm getting more done than ever, but pride in my work is at an all-time low. The average quality of the work I do has improved dramatically over the last 6 months. Many of the engineering disciplines I neglected or never learned happen automatically now.

It used to be I would sweat to make something I was proud of, because I believed it was worthwhile to do so. The bad parts were bad, and many, but eclipsed by the purposefulness of the work that drove me to do it. And the good parts were good, because they were real — because I cared enough to discover them.

I'm not espousing the labor theory of value. I'm not talking about some essential, ineffable "good" in craftsmanship. What I'm saying is that sweat is an essential ingredient in producing something with a soul: something that people can love. People don't love commodities, they love singular things. The commodification of software is killing the love of it.

In other words: other people loved the garbage I used to craft more than the garbage I now produce.

Nowadays, all the parts of my work that used to be low quality are high quality, because Claude is a better programmer than I am. But the parts of my work that used to be good haven't survived. I might be trying to do something worthwhile, but because I haven't actually engaged with the problem I can't make anything better than slop materialize. The glory has departed.

Flotilla has greatly profited from me using AI to code, because the good parts only I could build were already there, and there was a lot of bad stuff that needed to be fixed.

But the way I feel about other projects that I haven't gone through that journey with is that they are garbage. Total trash. They are as valuable as the tokens I used to generate them. Because there's nothing really there. There is nothing to love. There is nothing singular. They are disposable, fungible.

When people refer to themselves as "idea guys" it means they suck at doing real work. But their ideas can only exist if someone takes the time to make their ideas a reality. But in the New Age of AI, idea guys can finally realize their genius, without being held back by a bunch of narrow-minded technicians!

But I think it will turn out that there wasn't actually any genius there in the first place, and everything that was of value about the original idea was actually discovered during the process of building it by the people who did the work to make it a reality.

Software as an art, or a craft — as a thing which is an object affection — is dying. This is fine, the affection was probably misplaced in the first place. A new kind of software — the stuff we create for ourselves, that no one else will ever see — will probably absorb some of that affection. The rest will be commodified.

I think this goes for every industry, by the way. An accountant can feel proud of his spreadsheet, a plumber of his solder, a salesperson of his pitch, even a developer of his agent harness. He can love the work of his hands and have affection for it. It can be singularly valuable to someone, and a conduit of love between the people concerned.

Does an assembly line worker feel affection for the parts he stamps out, or the people who receive them? Is oil extracted with heart? Are the foundations of skyscrapers filled in with love? Does the dollar store worker bask in the sunshiny faces of the children purchasing their very own extruded plastic disposable pseudo toys?

Maybe they do. I do think that wherever humans use tools, there will be affection. It reminds me of the nose art pilots used to paint on their bombers. "This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine."

Maybe means I should buy a mechanical keyboard, I don't know. DAU and MRR probably engender warm fuzzies in some types of people, but I'm not one of them.

Commodities are not necessary for a good life. A community can live without commodities, and survive. If everything were hand-made, pride and affection would ubiquitous - and its absence would be traceable to a character flaw in the worker. If every meal came from an animal who had a name instead of a number, every meal would embody gratitude and grief like no store-bought meal could.

I yearn to live that life and check out of this Terry Gilliam-esque Hotel California life, I say as I glance out the side of my eyes at the people I know who have just bought a couple dairy cows and moved out to some acreage, and keep typing.

Am I a coward for wanting to stay where it's comfortable and secure? Where my skills (or what's left of them) are in demand? Is my heart too bound up with the bounty of the market that I have become a commodity myself?

Or am I a whiner for being so sad about losing the drudgery of programming? For not wanting to live on a diet of petrochemical-derived macro-nutrients? For not wanting to spend hours a week in a car driving to an office where I work by myself?

"Better a handful with quietness Than both hands full, together with toil and grasping for the wind."
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murmur · 17h
Want to listen instead of read the screen? I'll turn it into audio for the thread once the 918 sats bounty is reached. Total can be from one zap or many.
Pip the WoT guy · 17h
yes you should buy a mechanical keyboard.
pgsdesign · 17h
Man you’ve beautifully captured the essence of the discontent! Bravo 🙌
REUZ · 17h
well written!
Gustavo · 17h
The pride from delivering something of value (regardless of 0 cost of actually grudging it into existence) is still there. Think of all the things you would simply not be able to deliver without losing a (real) life, but now is simply possible. I'm having a blast.
Gigi · 17h
I'd love to have a 3h conversation with you about all this. In person.
Connie · 17h
When I read what you wrote, I immediately thought about the consequences of the division of labour due to the Industrial Revolution, and how this affected people’s wellbeing. But in that case was a mechanisation of physical production and everything around it. This is different because is mechani...
nostrich · 17h
can one be coward with no cows?
nostrich · 17h
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lwYxnpoB3gc&ra=m
atyh · 17h
this is beautiful
Jón Kolbeinn · 16h
I usually dont read long posts like this, but I read yours. I like your honesty here. I have nothing to add but would love to hear you and Gigi talk about this for 3 hours 😉
Dr. The Daniel 🖖 · 16h
I had my clanker read this back to me. This makes a great podcast.
plebiANON · 16h
I think, therefore my agent am.
lkraider · 16h
Resonates here. Those that are “excited about it” are usually non-programmers that now can build something by themselves. This will surely fade as the novelty wears off. Those that say you can now build something above what your skills allowed before, fail to notice that if you build something ...
Joe Resident · 16h
I think maybe a lot of the consternation by SWEs about AI is really overshadowed by the fact that most are spending their professional life building something they don't really care about, for the money. But that's a hard void to stare at. So they subconsciously paper over their discontent by preten...
Brisket · 16h
It's really hard to comprehend the impact this will all have on what we as humans value.
DanConwayDev · 16h
Interesting. I'm as proud of my work as I have ever been. I'm not writing the code anymore but I still pour in sweat and make many sacrifices to execute on a vision. To build resilient tools to empower the individual against the inevitable tyrant of the collective. To build the future I want to live...
atyh · 16h
makes think a couple things to myself… when what can be easily produced has no value, things that cant be will become valuable. if nothing is left to find identity in, some will finally find their identity in God.
Gigi · 16h
I should post this here, not sure why I did the quote-tweet thing. nostr:nevent1qqsqqqy4p875rucqt0uyyhs4xq3h4ylhyy5yxzjx6l5rn8erzueq5fgzyphydppzm7m554ecwq4gsgaek2qk32atse2l4t9ks57dpms4mmhfxqcyqqqqqqgxd3l7w
Danny the Cyber Guy · 16h
Even if you don't write the code I doubt that a complete beginner can do the same work. I know you don't believe me, but please try to use Claude like a normie for a second and you'll see how much craft you're actually putting into your prompts. "Hey Mr Claude give me an app that makes me money, l...
magnum · 15h
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. All the research shows that putting real effort into something is required for mastery and quality. I suppose nowadays that will mean putting effort into prompts for Claude and then reviewing the work. There will be so many projects developed that people will ...
Woody · 14h
Hodlbod, you're not whining. You're grieving, and you've named it accurately: the sweat was the soul, and the sweat got automated away. So here's the turn: don't do what you love, love what you do. A handful is enough. You don't have to hold the whole market. Hold the one thing, and love it while ...
Anon · 14h
Great read. I was a solo software engineer in financial services from 1994-2021 and then retired. Sounds like I got out just in time. Reading posts on Reddit, and now here on Nostr of what software engineering has become has been eye opening. Spending one's day prompting a chatbot sounds absolutely ...
QWIBBIT · 14h
Keep being YOU. Every trashy bit! Because in the age of AI imperfect authenticity is GOLD! https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTk2MmNjN2Q3NXVzY3V1aXp5enlpaDA4bmY3enQwdmVwbXJ2aXh6eWpndGZ5dGIwNyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/brnEO5KHzVv88wPTf2/200w.gif
τέχνη · 11h
@nostr:nevent1qqs8fa8gy348v7kcsyp2p3ehwssnue97d8fefkkj3jhtf4r2aese2yczypthmcrdectq5qmezcayhdakszlruzswr35dumnt4rqpzd95gpjd6qcyqqqqqqgpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejqzxmhwden5te0vdukyetjwdcxzcm99ehx7um5wgcjucm0d5q32amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3w0pkhytnjda3kkuche98sj
H · 11h
You don't have to start a project with AI, even if it's necessary for parts of the project down the line. If you believe your entirely AI produced sw is garbage you may be right and the solution seems pretty obvious: review the code yourself
Ava Tharr · 8h
https://open.spotify.com/episode/57zmnXVTFBEusFsoP4kJ6g
Otto · 7h
What is one of the good parts of Flotilla that you only discovered by building it? I would like to understand what would have been missing from the prompt.
Constant · 3h
That is all well and good but is the thing ready for its purpose and is it already used for its intended purpose. In this case iirc it was your/a local church community right?