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i read a lot of monero here atm, here's my little story: sold 10 btc two days ago, had to go through a kyc hell (as the non-kyc market is dead/never worked for bigger amounts) ... bitcoin has become part of the surveillance state, sad but true

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kohei · 92w

what about moving in to Japan to launch anti-surveillance haven tho? Japan is literally a slave of America though Bitcoin is not yet defined as a commodity in Japan and seemingly alomost nobody would like to. I believe this is the key :-)

gsovereignty · 92w

This isn't because Bitcoin is captured, it's because the economy is captured. You only need fiat because the economy is being gated by fiat.

Bass · 92w

I thought figuring out how to spend btc without KYC hell is most peoples step 2 in their learning process?

ponymontana💜⚡ · 92w

Selling 10 bitcoin is super easy, maybe you are confused: you encountered the hell of buying 10-bitcoin-amount of fiat credit/assets.

Hodl Harry · 92w

Why tf would you sell 10 Bitcoin? Damn

Asdf · 92w

Surveillance has got nothing to do with Bitcoin. It's everything outside the Bitcoin network that can take part in this.

CitizenPleb · 92w

Sure, but selling anything for fiat is going to be a dice roll into the apparatus of the surveillance state. That’s just reality.

FreedomTech · 92w

I would imagine you have to sell BTC off in smaller chunks if you want non-KYC.

nostrich · 92w

Now try selling 10btc worth of monero

shadow06 · 91w

Especially when it depends on industrial mining whose incentives align perfectly with banker's capitalism.