Reminder that what we are doing here with Nostr, is hard, almost everything about it is difficult. Building the apps, building the eco-system of apps, getting the users, getting users to stay etc.
Nostr, "it does not rely on P2P techniques, therefore it works."
Nostr, "An open social protocol with a chance of working".
When i learned about Nostr, my first instinct was disappointment due to the fact that it is not P2P. After a lot of back and forth with the jungle spirit, i begrudgingly accepted the non-P2P nature of Nostr. Oh boy was he right.
Look how many years it took for devs to come with clients that actually work (most of the time, if you are lucky and the stars align) while the system uses boring old webservers. Can you imagine the torture it would have been if it was P2P? No way, not in a million years.
I can remember a chat/discussion I had with a Bitcoin-core dev about Nostr, his response was also to judge it for the fact it is not P2P. He understood it would be super difficult, but in his mind we would have to bite that bullet to eventually come with the perfect/ideal system. Coming up with such a system is perhaps doable, no doubt, but getting developers to implement it, and subsequently users to use it despite all the quirks it would no doubt have...I don't see it.
I think it is very difficult to gauge how well Nostr is doing and what are reasonable expectations. User numbers and retention are low, but I am not convinced that means all that much; all that tells me really is that the number of communities is low. Given the current state of the network, and the nature of the system, individuals joining is mostly pointless. This is also the reason why i don't put out call to actions during my podcast appearances. Communities will have to adopt Nostr, and with enough of those, individuals actually have something to engage with.
What i do see is more and more functional clients. Combine that with that (atleast i am confinced) we have the actual answers to a myriad of problems society complains about, i think it is all a matter of time. I think we are at the stage where people bothering to take a look at Nostr might come to conclusion that it actually works. We will see i guess.
Besides, what else are you going to do? What other option do you have than to suffer the Nostr grind? Surrender and cuck to the platforms again?
Nostr.
Nostr, "it does not rely on P2P techniques, therefore it works."
Nostr, "An open social protocol with a chance of working".
When i learned about Nostr, my first instinct was disappointment due to the fact that it is not P2P. After a lot of back and forth with the jungle spirit, i begrudgingly accepted the non-P2P nature of Nostr. Oh boy was he right.
Look how many years it took for devs to come with clients that actually work (most of the time, if you are lucky and the stars align) while the system uses boring old webservers. Can you imagine the torture it would have been if it was P2P? No way, not in a million years.
I can remember a chat/discussion I had with a Bitcoin-core dev about Nostr, his response was also to judge it for the fact it is not P2P. He understood it would be super difficult, but in his mind we would have to bite that bullet to eventually come with the perfect/ideal system. Coming up with such a system is perhaps doable, no doubt, but getting developers to implement it, and subsequently users to use it despite all the quirks it would no doubt have...I don't see it.
I think it is very difficult to gauge how well Nostr is doing and what are reasonable expectations. User numbers and retention are low, but I am not convinced that means all that much; all that tells me really is that the number of communities is low. Given the current state of the network, and the nature of the system, individuals joining is mostly pointless. This is also the reason why i don't put out call to actions during my podcast appearances. Communities will have to adopt Nostr, and with enough of those, individuals actually have something to engage with.
What i do see is more and more functional clients. Combine that with that (atleast i am confinced) we have the actual answers to a myriad of problems society complains about, i think it is all a matter of time. I think we are at the stage where people bothering to take a look at Nostr might come to conclusion that it actually works. We will see i guess.
Besides, what else are you going to do? What other option do you have than to suffer the Nostr grind? Surrender and cuck to the platforms again?
Nostr.
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