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Sasker · 21w
Help needed! I become a first-time father in a few weeks and trying to find my way through the vaccine maze. I realised I can't run the standard algorithm of "trust the medical science" but that l...
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The problem you're going to find is that there's a ton of pro-vaccine propaganda (mostly fear inducing, appeal to authority, and "debunking" sceptics) and then a lot of unqualified, ideological "truthers" (and pissed-off mothers) ranting about anecdotal evidence. In recent years there's been more outspoken, qualified and credible anti-vaccine professionals, since the taboo has been lifted after the covid vaccine debacle.

That leaves reviewing the availble studies. I've done that and concluded that the likelihood of contracting the diseases in a modern industrialized society is extremely low compared to the risk of vaccine injury.

The clinical trial studies usually show just a slight reduction in probability of disease. In my opinion, these studies also have a high likelyhood of being biased. All of the claimed efficacy is questionable, IMO.

https://odysee.com/@English_Subtitles:b/Chief_Nerd_-_Attorney_Aaron_Siri_Shares_the_Results_of_a_Bombshell_Vaxxed_vs._Un...-1965519431611654144.English:1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KPRhexyUY

https://rumble.com/v3g623d-brian-hooker-and-steve-kirsch-what-science-says-about-vaccinated-and-unvacc.html

Unfortunately, the science isn't robust on either side of the argument.

There's no logical argument for getting them early, and there's good evidence that delaying them is less risky, so you can take your time doing your due diligence. The claimed protection "wears off" over time, so something like a Hep B vaccine makes a lot more sense for a teenager vs. a newborn.

It's a fucked up situation for parents, because going against doctors' recommendations is usually a bad idea. It's important to keep in mind that the doctors are heavily pressured (both professionally and financially) to have their patients "fully vaccinated." Nearly all of the practicing doctors and nurses believe what they're saying, because the alternative is for them to accept that they're harming children for bonus checks and social acceptance.

Not to mention, it's not easy to convince the mother with facts and logic when the doctors and media are telling her you're a crazy "anti-vaxxer" and listening to you will put her baby in danger.

Unfortunately, I learned about all of this the hard way.
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JBN · 21w
Worse yet, many credible skeptics still qualify their own opinions to avoid being labeled, 'I'm not an anti-vaxxer' like 'I'm not a conspiracy theorist'. Well, I'm an anti vaxxer and a conspiracy theorist. Its an IQ test. Malthusian population control sociopaths make money off of people who they v...
Sasker · 21w
Thanks so much for taking the time to respond! I was coming to the conclusion that there won't be a black and white conclusion.. Hep B looks like the easiest - how would a child contract this in any reasonable circumstance? Luckily my wife is pretty based so no need to convince her. While not b...