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jack
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thoughts on Apple’s private relay?
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Skyler
· 183w
It fights with mullvad unfortunately
Tom
· 183w
You mean like a damus clone? Maybe Apple wants that sweet sweet 30% cut from their apps (impossible to grab via decentralized ⚡️ service)
Moel
· 183w
Because it’s on millions of devices and active for everyone who pays for iCloud, your anonymity set is extremely large. Also, my mother now has a vpn without knowing what it is or why it’s good. But it just works.
SatsGodzilla
· 183w
What?
SatsGodzilla
· 183w
Apple or apple users?
Michael Henke
· 183w
It’s a glorified privoxy
oldkeyprince
· 183w
All good 🤷
FOX
· 183w
There’s a known issue where it leaks data when paired with some vpns - better than nothing for most though
FOU
· 183w
They will still sell our private data to advertisers.
Kamo Weasel
· 183w
Expensive
Brunswick
· 183w
If icloud knows who you are by your IP, and you can't use a VPN, then you leak your identity against your public key. At that point apple has an assymetric information set that every government would want to link a pubkey against an apple ID. Is this supposed to be a good thing?
balas
· 183w
is it open source?
Morpheus
· 183w
thoughts...? You cause ppl to think, that is good. End users need it to be transparently simple, they dont want to know how things work. When we can make geeky things simple, then we get mass adoption.
Shawn
· 183w
Forgot about it until now. I tried it very early on. Seemed to cause lots of routing problems.
Cameri🐲
· 183w
Part of their Cloud offering, I could see it happening.
nostrich
· 183w
I trust apple like a big brother. As much as I trust that Google don't be evil.
Seraf
· 183w
Nope. #[0]
N
· 183w
Hard to know.
Le Zuero
· 183w
I think it is better not use.
Bill
· 183w
Less cool than when Winston Privacy tried the same thing (https://shop.winstonprivacy.com/) with its “Pi-hole PLUS decentralized VPN”. RIP. Would love to see Umbrel try something similar.
Shap
· 183w
Since it’s not open source, can we trust it? Assume you could test in/out, but question the reliability.
Joda
· 183w
Does #[1] seriously not know this is #zapathon time?
CraigTheSpaceBum
· 183w
Apple x Nostr would destroy Twitter. How many old people you know just use apple just because they dont understand technology? It would be like going from dial up to broadband when it comes to adoption of nostr.
🐢
· 183w
Been using it since implementation. Seems to work?
Matt Corallo
· 183w
By an order of magnitude the best VPN in existence, most importantly because your cohort is normies. And I absolutely despise Cloudflare and think they’re evil.
jescala
· 183w
The whole video is worth a watch. But jump to around 24:30 for details on how it works. https://developer.apple.com/wwdc21/10085
shinz0n
· 183w
My thoughts on it: It’s not private
Studio 3.14 Official
· 183w
I don't trust Apple with privacy. So anything they label private automatically gets taken with a grain of salt
zhenya
· 183w
What’s not to like?
jack
· 183w
Evidently this only works for safari, not all internet connections
jack
· 183w
anyone know if this affects web sockets or performance thereof?
sudocarlos
· 183w
As is, it's pretty cool. But I wish it was system wide, not just in Safari. Also shouldn't be region-restricted. And if it was an open standard and more providers were doing this that would be ideal.
thorium
· 183w
Is there such a thing as Apple and private? I don't know about that, but from a principal view it seems questionable.
Deleted Account
· 183w
Pretty good, it’s a free vpn that (in my testing) does pretty good for masking my location from the start (most people don’t turn on their VPN until before they use it, Apple’s is always on)
petri
· 182w
Even Apple Mail doesn't work when it's on.