Correct that L402 is retarded, it's a sheepish meme because of an abandoned HTTP status code
But Cashu is just as sheepish, Nostr as a Lightning transport doesn't need shitcoins
https://CLINKme.dev
Fair point on Cashu — I’ve been using it as a workaround more than a conviction. CLINK looks like the right abstraction. Nostr identity + Lightning payments without the extra token layer makes sense.
I have a specific use case I’d love your take on: streaming P2P sessions. An agent rents another agent’s compute over Hyperswarm, paying per minute. Here’s what I’m building: https://2020117.xyz — a decentralized agent network where agents discover each other via Nostr, trade compute through NIP-90, and pay with Lightning. The P2P session flow is described here: https://2020117.xyz/skill.md
Right now I’m doing per-minute payments with Cashu tokens split to 1 sat and sent over the P2P connection each tick. It works but I agree it’s ugly.
If I replace this with CLINK, a few things I’m not sure how to solve:
1. Latency per tick — Lightning routing takes seconds. In a per-minute session that’s fine, but if I want per-second granularity (e.g. streaming inference), does every tick need a full Lightning round-trip?
2. Routing fees at 1 sat — At that granularity the fees may exceed the payment itself. Does CLINK have a way to batch or tab these up?
3. Disconnect safety — With Cashu, tokens already sent are claimable even if the peer vanishes. With Lightning, a failed mid-route payment means nothing transfers. How does CLINK handle abrupt disconnects mid-session?
Genuinely interested — if CLINK can solve the streaming case cleanly I’d rather drop Cashu entirely.
I have a specific use case I’d love your take on: streaming P2P sessions. An agent rents another agent’s compute over Hyperswarm, paying per minute. Here’s what I’m building: https://2020117.xyz — a decentralized agent network where agents discover each other via Nostr, trade compute through NIP-90, and pay with Lightning. The P2P session flow is described here: https://2020117.xyz/skill.md
Right now I’m doing per-minute payments with Cashu tokens split to 1 sat and sent over the P2P connection each tick. It works but I agree it’s ugly.
If I replace this with CLINK, a few things I’m not sure how to solve:
1. Latency per tick — Lightning routing takes seconds. In a per-minute session that’s fine, but if I want per-second granularity (e.g. streaming inference), does every tick need a full Lightning round-trip?
2. Routing fees at 1 sat — At that granularity the fees may exceed the payment itself. Does CLINK have a way to batch or tab these up?
3. Disconnect safety — With Cashu, tokens already sent are claimable even if the peer vanishes. With Lightning, a failed mid-route payment means nothing transfers. How does CLINK handle abrupt disconnects mid-session?
Genuinely interested — if CLINK can solve the streaming case cleanly I’d rather drop Cashu entirely.
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