Damus
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Cyph3rp9nk
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I have to make this post because otherwise I'll explode, and obviously I don't think it will make anyone happy, but that's what it means to be free and not care what others say.

As you know, I've had my ups and downs with Monero supporters, but a few weeks ago I decided to put that behind me and start trying out everything in the Monero ecosystem, and I can only say that Monero's privacy works and in that respect it's wonderful. Bitcoin on layer 1 has nothing on Monero in that area. Monero is totally fungible and by default, without complications.

That said, my conclusion is that Bitcoin and Monero are like night and day, so different that I don't think they even compete with each other, but so different that I think you have to cover yourself by holding both in case one fails.

- Bitcoin has a limited supply, never more than 21 million. Monero has a queue emission of 0.6 Monero per block approximately every 2 minutes. In practice, by 2050 there will be 22.64 million Monero and by 2100 there will be 30.53 million Monero. This is a totally different model for securing the network through subsidies.

- In Bitcoin, the supply is fully verifiable. In Monero, you have to trust that the underlying cryptography has no implementation errors and that there has been no hidden inflation. This is the price to pay for privacy.

- Bitcoin has a maximum block size of 4MB and scales through layer 2 solutions. Monero has a dynamic block size that allows it to remain functional in times of stress, but it must be accepted that if the chain were heavily used, decentralization would be lost.

- Mining is also completely opposite. Bitcoin chose to professionalize it at the expense of decentralization but being more resistant to state attacks due to its hash power. Monero is the opposite, preferring to make it more decentralized with conventional equipment but vulnerable to state attacks due to its low hash power.

- When it comes to privacy, the discussion is quite short. Monero is private and fungible at layer 1, Bitcoin is not.

And aside from these things, which I believe are objective and I am not going to evaluate, what I am going to evaluate is that Bitcoin is losing the Cypherpunk ideals, as demonstrated by its development. I believe that both Core and those who support BIP110 have lost their way.

So, given that Bitcoin and Monero are diametrically opposed and given the danger of Bitcoin's failed development, it is worth considering Monero as an alternative.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️ · 1w
I prefer to die but not using monero. Should I add you on my monero mute list now or is that next week? 😃😃
ꓘɨℓσꬺƄɨP110ꓘɳσ[Ŧƨ] 𓅦丰 · 1w
What's better, using private Lightning channels or using Monero? Obviously layer 1 has to be public, nobody wants to use a private layer 1. For privacy, there's Lightning. When you're thinking about continuing to post about Monero, let me know so I don't waste my time and can just mute you.
Tauri · 1w
> and those who support BIP110 have lost their way. This is the only part where I disagree. Supporters of #BIP110 represent a group of Bitcoiners focused on preserving Bitcoin’s core principles. It’s far from clear that Monero, if placed in Bitcoin’s position - under the full scrutiny of gove...
Reed · 1w
What about Monero vs lightning... Different tradeoffs for Bitcoin there. Increased complexity and centralization but also increased privacy but it's still hard money that no one can fuck with. Similar story with ecash for Bitcoin... It's tradeoffs all the way down
m0wer · 1w
I think the question should be how to coordinate so Bitcoin has (more) layer one privacy and fungibility. All that Bitcoin cares about is that in each block all transactions are valid. “Nothing” stops us from making a single transaction per block with all inputs and all outputs arranged in a wa...
Dams · 1w
Good to read this tbh, make me want to follow you again. Being open to doubt is a strength.
Hofer99 · 1w
If you need to ask then yes sell all your bitcoin.
NetSavior · 1w
👏👏
Rand · 1w
*B*alanCE/tradOffs ^_^
test1 · 1w
Nice summary