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Daniel · 5w
Servers have a place just to push back a little. If all you want to do is run a node then that’s great. If you’re in the path to more true digital sovereignty then this is not sufficient.
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I get the point about servers and sovereignty — but that’s exactly why I’m critical of Umbrel.

If you’re doing anything serious, you shouldn’t be running a “node OS” at all. You run Debian, understand your system, use Docker/Portainer, and write your own configs. Umbrel doesn’t give you sovereignty there — it hides Debian behind a UI skin.

And if someone just wants easy installs, running a full OS is overkill. Umbrel isn’t a custom OS anyway, it’s still Debian underneath — just with opinions baked in.

Yantra sits in the middle: it’s just a Docker container (~155MB) that gives you an app-store experience without touching or taking over your system. No lock-in, no pretending to be an OS, no loss of control.

Sovereignty isn’t about running more layers — it’s about knowing what’s actually running.
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Daniel · 4w
I agree with your thesis. I don’t run Umbrel, but I’m a bigger fan of it than you seem to be. It’s tough for most folks to jump right into the deep end with Linux. That’s why I think Umbrel or even better start9 is a good place to start on the server side. Then run Linux on your laptop. Make...