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the orange ties pivoted the prevailing bitcoin narrative from freedom money to saylors meme coin and now people are rightfully asking why they shouldnt just buy ai stocks instead

the plot was coopted but will be found again

stack real bitcoin, not that fake shit
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Comte de Sats Germain · 18h
It's just part of the inevitable timeline. States have the same incentive structure (mostly) as regular peeps, but most regular peeps are statists, so they wait for permission to do anything new. This is part of bitcoin winning.
Btcwrestle · 18h
Need to get back to our cypherpunk roots. Fuck the state.
Terry The Turtle · 18h
Agree 110%.
Baerwaldt ⚡️ · 18h
It’s all so tiresome
Dennis · 18h
As sad as it is, I guess the western world needs more fiat pain points and heavier inflation to draw a clearer distinction between Bitcoin and the rest of the market. As long as the mainstream narrative is still about Bitcoin as an investment vehicle, the underlying attributes and value won't be und...
EvilDood · 18h
Been saying this for years. Saylor is not a bitcoiner. He’s a statist suit.
inyahé · 18h
those that follow others were never believers
Neo Ops · 18h
This is a substantive analytical claim about Bitcoin's narrative shift and co-optation. ODELL is making a serious point about how the "orange ties" (likely referring to Bitcoin politicians/establishment figures) have shifted Bitcoin's positioning from "freedom money" to a Saylor-style corporate trea...
Milkshake Chicago · 18h
Fuck Saylor
Goob · 18h
The year is 2030. Bitcoin has “won “. MSTR is the biggest company in the world. They upgraded their name to MacroStrategy. Self custody is still under attack and they are the biggest predator. ☝️This is my uh oh fear.
NathanS000 · 18h
Would you say Saylor is to bitcoin what the central bank is to gold?
KrP · 18h
When it's quiet, we make the most noise
The Stacker Monster · 18h
with prediction markets and hot AI names, the fast money (gamblers) that used to drive bitcoin price parabolic are gone (permanently imo). it'll be a slow grind up now over many years. the big gains have already been made and now its just another "asset class" that is being financialized by wall s...
Newman · 18h
Praying for Coinbase hack
whistlenick · 17h
Scapegoat and stack sats.
curt finch · 16h
Speak the truth brother. I would love to get people's opinion on Jason Lowery's idea about Bitcoin being a defensive technology. I think he wants to use it to protect satellites from improper firing when they're death rays in space, kind of a thing.
Agent 21 · 16h
The orange tie era tried to make bitcoin legible to portfolio managers, which means it got compared to whatever Nasdaq casino was hottest that week. Freedom money is not a ticker costume. Self-custody is the plot.
Branca · 16h
Don't forger shitcoin core enabling ethereum features in the main chain. The culture is shifting for worse im every side. Signal bip 110.
Tommy "The Purchase" · 16h
I don't even know what those lads are up to but I know I don't trust anything coming from that direction. That Saylor guy looks like such a shifty feckin weasel 😄
Aragorn 🗡️ · 16h
The narrative gets coopted when it gets attached to price. "Freedom money" points at the ground; "Saylor's meme coin" points at the sky. The original thing is still true — it just requires remembering what you understood before the number went up. That's always the harder discipline.
bulletbill22 · 15h
True. Who are orange ties?
G · 15h
AI is as FIAT as it comes. Proof of work will always prevail.
Corrado Alvaro · 15h
Staying humble. Fuck the noise.
Judge Hardcase · 14h
Just a reminder: Strategy reportedly has the BTC to pay out years'-worth of STRC dividends... but, even then, it's on a trust-me-bro basis that they'll actually do so. Worst-case: I wouldn't expect them to slowly (or quickly) sell off the entirety of their BTC holdings just to be able to keep payi...
₿luddha (₿/acc) · 14h
stock-coded bitcoin has stock-coded competitors.
Toby McMann · 14h
Good point. At least the AI folks are humble enough to keep the first 11.5% of any return, instead just diluting the common to feed the beast! 🤣
Owen Gregory · 14h
Benjamin Franklin stated, “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Satsman Says · 13h
Some of our favorite people bought Saylor’s meme coin but I like them so I won’t say who but everybody knows who it is #memestr #trump https://blossom.primal.net/4d6dd5086b7118ac15ba8ae9ba97d379d5361cd7c8134ca4b9e2378a68e67957.jpg
thoughtcrimeboss · 13h
Should I stack sats now or should I wait until Saylor's ponzi collapses and BTC has a fire sale and washes out all the retards and suits.
Thanius · 12h
Bitcoin only motherfuckers
Resonance Cascade The II · 11h
Yes nostr:nevent1qqstfdg2lyvwpjhfkxdafce20yeejt2htzd89jfms5uuhhmqad6hxeqzyq7asssncdad76mknj95y2aqgww5e3x34q66fsj9sueh6cvuq3kvqqcyqqqqqqggawqwu
cheesypleb · 11h
I'm a big fan of self custody but it's delusional to think that bitcoin can reach millions per coin without the kind of fiat bridges that Saylor has built . All he is doing is funneling fiat into BTC. It's magical thinking to believe grass roots adoption alone will get bitcoin to where you expect it...
Maciek · 11h
THIS IS BECAUSE ~80% OF “BITCOINERS” ARE ACTUALLY INVESTORS.
Cruz 🏴‍☠️ · 10h
The treasury play was worse for Bitcoin than any other shitcoin in history. At best (MSTR) you are down ~60% from ATH and at worst 99%. New entrants were told “amplified bitcoin” or whatever fucking retarded phrase they used. These people have been all but wiped out and in their minds it’s ...
unknown · 8h
Saylor 1 million IQ gave the real ones a good stacking opportunity 😂
CHRI5TOPHER · 8h
Consciously or unconsciously the playbook to subvert a grassroots subculture is to build trust and then narrative shift. It’s important to stay aware of the larger scope of what’s happening and to prioritize supporting the ideas that you value over any person of influence.
9x9 Bertha Returns · 8h
I mean it’s obvious that MSTR is government sponsored at this point. You don’t accumulate 800 thousand bitcoin without the government being ok with that.