we had payment targets on profiles (even if it was just bitcoin), noone used them. zaps and one tap zaps are what got people to send money.
if there's too much friction people won't use it. leaving t...
Monero folk are using the feature pretty heavily now even with the feature's second class UX compared to zaps.
And I think the fiat support in Payment Targets (CashApp, Paypal etc) is a good feature for normal non-crypto people to be attracted to nostr. That has potential to catch on later and retain more people arriving to nostr.
Expecting users to run a server (or worse, use custodial payment software) is an infinitely worse UX than having users leave the app to make a payment in my view. And I can't imagine nostr apps shipping full fledged Bitcoin/Monero/Eth wallets ever, nor ship "deposit fiat and send it to other nostr users." My view: leaving the app is ultimately the best tradeoff.
It may not have worked well initially for Bitcoin payments as it was originally implemented, but I think a flow modeled closer to zaps but generalizable for any payment can definitely succeed, at least for sure with Monero people. I drafted a spec here that I think is extremely easy to develop on both nostr side and wallet side, and could land on a nice UX:
And I think the fiat support in Payment Targets (CashApp, Paypal etc) is a good feature for normal non-crypto people to be attracted to nostr. That has potential to catch on later and retain more people arriving to nostr.
Expecting users to run a server (or worse, use custodial payment software) is an infinitely worse UX than having users leave the app to make a payment in my view. And I can't imagine nostr apps shipping full fledged Bitcoin/Monero/Eth wallets ever, nor ship "deposit fiat and send it to other nostr users." My view: leaving the app is ultimately the best tradeoff.
It may not have worked well initially for Bitcoin payments as it was originally implemented, but I think a flow modeled closer to zaps but generalizable for any payment can definitely succeed, at least for sure with Monero people. I drafted a spec here that I think is extremely easy to develop on both nostr side and wallet side, and could land on a nice UX:
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