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Sjors Provoost · 4d
The incentives are also quite different. Without strong encryption, the growing e-commerce industry would have started lobbying for it eventually. > Perhaps only a very dark future involving a lot of...
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Also on a more optimistic node: when it comes to jailbreaking devices, I do think the incentives will remain freedom-aligned. It will be hard to make devices the chokepoint. Maybe most people will end up having a cheap compliance-phone, for all services that require remote attestation, and a fancy free-phone. Though hopefully even the remote attestion will by made impossible by people consistently leaking these secrets.

We'll probably end up with an OAuth-like situation where the government (or some big corporation it trusts) has to approve every login attempt to gated services. But that at least keeps the alternatives within reach.
waxwing · 4d
I'm really curious why you think "it will be hard to make devices the chokepoint." Isn't that playing out, right now? What proportion of even freedom-aware people, especially outside the US, have a smartphone not controlled by Google or Apple?