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Derek Ross
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Unit bias is an issue with Bitcoin. Newcomers often buy Dogecoin or other altcoins simply because they can own "a lot" of them, while the idea of ever owning a whole Bitcoin feels impossible. One proposed solution by @John Carvalho is to shift the language from 21 million bitcoins to 2.1 quadrillion bitcoins. Bitcoin is a great brand name and using satoshis or sats can be confusing. This would fix that too.

However, I feel this proposal would create confusion too, especially for those new to Bitcoin and for the media—because for 16 years, people have heard there are only 21 million bitcoins. Explaining that the total supply hasn’t changed, only the denomination, would be exhausting. Personally, I think calling them “sats” isn’t very intuitive, they should’ve been called “bits”, but at this point, I don’t really care.

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Nostr Gang · 46w
How bout 1 million sats = 1 bit 🤔
ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ!🫵🏼 · 46w
I think that’s one of the reasons why many of these new tradefi ICOs are becoming popular
Parman - Activate OP_GFY now!! · 46w
Nah
Disserter · 46w
satoshis are cool they just need a visual meme as good as Bitcoin's and a seamless "everything app" experience
Dakota · 46w
I think it’s all fine the way it is. The words and labels and denominations are all arbitrary anyways. Kids learn about dollars and cents and penny’s and dimes etc in school to learn math, which is really no less arbitrary then bitcoin - it was just established by precedent, just like it will be...
OceanSlim · 46w
This is the dumbest proposal I've ever seen.
SweedWick · 46w
Nope. Build on existing brand or the marketing team will freak the fuck out. Bitcoin, and Sats. Stack em.
Janne Kujala · 46w
The status value of being a whole coiner is more powerful in my opinion. Newbies can shitcoin all they want, eventually they have to buy Bitcoin anyway. We are not in hurry.
Jon · 46w
I think 100,000,000 Sats per coin is less intuitive to normies than 2.1 quadrillion bitcoins. Plus 2.1 quadrillion might end the “there aren’t enough bitcoin to be money” FUD since a quadrillion sounds like plenty.
yope · 46w
People are free to call the units what they want of course, but if you go and call sats bitcoin, then I think it's also your duty to deal with and fix the massive avalanche of confusion that's gonna come at you. It will be HELL and it will be your fault. Seriously, if no-conoiners have trouble figur...
Canadian Progressive Bitcoiner · 46w
I believe that eventually people will come to realization that 1 whole Bitcoin is too much, but the ubiquitous unit used will be satoshis. Going to the grocery store "that will be 585 sats please" will sound a lot easier to use than "that will be 0.00000585 btc please". As an individual satoshi be...
₿oniz23⚡️🏴‍☠️🇮🇹 · 46w
What a bitch! But instead of wasting time inventing this shit, don't you have anything else to think about? Bitcoins are 21 million and it makes no sense to move the comma and call them sats. Who cares if the newcomers think they can never own 1 ₿. if they want it they have one 0, ..
TheGrinder · 46w
Yeah, no. Things worked fine as they are for the last 16 years. John isn't the first to make this notion and he wont be the last. Let's not waste time and energy on things we don't have to change. There is only 21 million Bitcoin and 2.1 quadrillion sats. Call them bits if you please or magic sprink...
mar · 46w
We don’t need to bend over backward for the sheep who can’t be bothered to spend a little time understanding Bitcoin. They'll get into it eventually, especially once their employers start paying them in Bitcoin. Bitcoin doesn't need to cater to laziness. As for the "bits" I agree, Bits would ...
StackSats.IO · 46w
Unit bias is always in the eye of the behodler. My morning coffee cost me 25,000 today! Can you believe it?! I paid 25,000 for a damn coffee! That was Vietnamese Dong which is the unit of account where I now live. In my mind it was less than US$1, in the merchants mind it was 25,000 Dong. People ...
Crusty 👨‍💻 · 46w
I guess it is better to talk about sats anyway. It takes away the thoughts mainstream media hinted in people, because it sounds a new thing. Of course not hiding it.
Jordan · 46w
I think people will figure it out
Sats Dragon · 46w
I vote not to change my name. Keep sats 😀. But in usd we have dollars and cents, not dollars and dols. So not that much of a stretch for people to actually grasp the concept in the us. We might need a metric system for everyone else. So 1sat = 10 nanobitcoins https://image.nostr.build/0f5496419...
Coach Z · 46w
I think you bring up a good point. Please allow me to offer perspective: I agree with you - many aspects of design aren’t ideal (a wallet is really a keychain, sats are bits, etc.). I believe that overtime people will continue using a multitude of words to refer to the same thing. Similarly toda...
nicodemus · 46w
Ah. This old debate again. Been around long enough to know that this is just another bit of education normies are gonna be forced to learn if they want hard money - and eventually, they will.
cozie · 46w
Not just Bitcoin. We see it with stocks also. Generally do better post split so retail can own more shares for same expenditure.
Repeatedly nuked profile · 46w
Dollars and cents are everyday words because you can price everyday things in them. Bitcoin and Sats are not like that. You can only price everyday things in one of the two: Sats. Keeping the word Sats for the only meaningful pricing unit will lead the word Bitcoin to end up with no semantic val...
Bitpunk · 46w
I'm against shifting as well. However I would prefer using 'bits' and sats more. It is intuitive to have 1 BTC =1,000,000 bits and 1 bit = 100 sats That way it clicks a lot easier in my head when doing calculations back and forth. The only thing we need is wallets and apps giving the option to...
Die Goldschmiedin · 46w
I must laugh so hard. I can't see a problem for the US people here. There is no sense in every measuring they make. Inch, feet, acres, bananas whatever and now concerned about 21 Mio. Bitcoin? 😂
The Daniel 🖖 · 46w
Imagine having to rewrite every bitcoin educational book, redo every video, every tutorial, recode every wallet, in every language…and expect there to be enough consensus among existing HODLers, just to try to make people think there are more “bitcoins.” It would be an absolute clown show.
Beefcoiner · 46w
So are there 100 000 000 Shats in a Shitcoin?
a1denvalu3 · 46w
This is a non-issue
Diacone Frost · 46w
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The Bitcoin Street Journal · 46w
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Oyl Miller · 46w
I don’t mind having an intellectual barrier to entry so I can accumulate more as others figure it out