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FREEDOM OR CONTROL - YOUR SUPPORT SHOWS YOUR CHOICE

I saw a long thread discussing another spam attack on Nostr last night. That's not going to stop for free relays. Spammers will always use free services with large audiences to spam. Stopping them is a game of whack-a-mole that even the big Social Media companies have failed to win despite their deep pockets and teams of engineers.

The solution is value-for-value: pay for what you use and find valuable. If Nostr benefits you in some way, be willing to pay for the tools you use that provide it to you (relays, clients, etc). If you can't pay but you can build or support it in some other way, that's great, too.

I had a person (jokingly I assume) say they were sad I didn't ⚡ them. The first thing that jumped into my mind when I read the note was "What benefit are you providing?" I had never seen any other post from them before.

If you want to live in a free world, you need to ask that question often, both of yourself and of others: what benefit are you providing? Because any time you're getting something "free", it's not free. Somebody is paying for it. If that person isn't you, then someone else is setting the agenda for what you consume. Is that what you want?

For many, the idea of freedom is like the idea of owning a boat. They daydream about how great it would be to have a boat, take it out on the water, fish, swim and enjoy it all. But they never buy a boat. Why? Because boats cost money and take work to maintain. All that pleasure has a price. Either you're willing to pay it, or you're not.

Freedom is no different. I hear a lot of talk about freedom today, and that's good. Freedom of speech is a big one. But what are you doing to support those that are building the tools that give you that freedom? Are you content to daydream about that freedom and how nice it would be while never taking any action, or are you willing to put some skin in the game to turn that dream into a reality both for yourself and others you care about?

We've been conditioned to get things for "free", but it's a lie and a trick that's resulted in us selling ourselves and our choices to the highest bidder. For me, Nostr is the path to freedom, but Nostr is not free. It costs money to run the relays, servers and services, and it costs time (which results in lost earning power) to code clients that provide the experience you want and create great content on an ad-free platform.

So if you believe in freedom, and I know you do (that's why you're here) then support the builders that are providing value to you. Show that freedom is not just a daydream. Governments and nefarious actors have long taken advantage of the masses just daydreaming about freedom. Let's wake the world up from that dream and make it a reality. This is our shot. Let's not miss the target.

My deepest thanks to all of those that are supporting the builders already. You are true heroes. 🙏
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GigaBTC 🌽⚡️🔑 · 163w
V4V thank you for building.
Anthony · 163w
Zapped ⚡️ ⚡️ ⚡️
Wdnysl · 163w
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts. I completely agree with your viewpoint. I believe that paying for valuable services is crucial, as it allows us to truly own the content and information we consume, and support the creators who provide us with freedom and value. I will do my best to sup...
Chris · 163w
Please support those who are building. Freedom ain’t free. ⚡️🤙🏼 TY to all the builders #[0]
BitcoinBekka · 163w
Thank you Jonathan 💜⚡⚡🥪
BitcoinBekka · 163w
Don't be a LARPer. ⚡v4v ⚡ #[0]
Siggy47 · 163w
Agree 100%. Are there any statistics yet regarding number of users paying for relays?
MaxMoney21M⚡ · 163w
In fairness V4V is a new and I might say revolutionary model that's only possible because of Bitcoin & LN. It will take time for people to come to terms with it. It will also take time before we know for sure that it can work at larger scales and with a wider crowd (general public).
Seeker Erebus · 163w
Excellent thinking. A thought for you and the other client devs out there: provide a way to very easily zap relay owners, as well as client devs. I paid for all the relays I'm using right now, but I've got no qualms about sending them a few sats a day for good service. Not when I'm sending a couple ...
Vivi Nella Verita · 163w
How about relays add moderation tools like every other decentralized platform?
Relatively Irrelevant · 163w
Would you mind recommending three paid nodes/relays that do a good job of fighting spam and have bitcoiners?
IntuitiveGuy☯️ · 163w
Don't ask what Nostr can do for you, ask yourself what you can do for Nostr and all Nostriches.. pura vida! 🍀🫂☯️ #[0]
⚡A C V⚡ · 163w
I will have to stick my neck out and disagree. Paid relays aren't the solution. We need to keep working on this. We need proof of work relays. We need an option to pay with sats to post (like on your phone, to avoid battery drain). 'Paid' relays don't fix spam, it just creates a little garden ...
TheGrinder · 163w
Very well spoken! stay humble. ⚡
Krypticity · 163w
I think this is brilliant. I completely agree, however, it is so very difficult to put a value on the Bitcoin I have. It is so rare and the value is so great at this point because so few people have any. It's actually kind of painful to spend any. I'm quite sure I am not the only one that feels thi...
Harebone · 163w
This is truth. Unfortunately. If we don’t address this now it will just grow to become a bigger problem later. We have to pay. Finding away to incorporate sharing will be the solution. Because only through sharing can it increase.
Harebone · 163w
Zapped. Keep fighting 💪
nostrich · 163w
It is up to the clients to solve the problem, not the relays.
Cyberhub · 163w
Value 4 Value or Slavery If we only take, then we are acting out the belief that others should exist to support us. There's a word for this. I'm eager to know what this world can look like if we can work together to continue to abolish slavery in all its forms. #[0]
StackSats.IO · 163w
You’ve been perhaps the most vocal discussing business models for client devs, it’s something that does need to be put out there as we’ve become so accustomed to “free” stuff without considering the work that is actually going in to products we consume. Yesterday I gave 1.2M Sats and post...
Biontic · 163w
V4V #[0]