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NIP-29 is lowkey the most hated NIP because it reverses the "smart client, dumb relay" assumption and is centralized by design. NIP-29 is private property, not a public square. The relay as the authority (who can read, who can poast, etc.) is a feature for this use case, not a bug. Incentivises running your own relay. Makes writing clients simpler. Your house, your rules.

The NIP-72 approach is naive, clunky, bandwidth and computation intensive, mostly poorly implemented and a dead end for what NIP-29 tries to accomplish.

NIP-29 is pragmatic, not purist. Keep hatin' but imma keep building on it.



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So Tachi · 2w
nostr will work on the assumption that users will run their own relay and blossom. the fundamental nostr value proposition is to self host your digital social life. So yes I'm all in favour of nip29, and nip04 for the same assumption (it works if it runs on your own inbox) and blossom and many other...
π•Ύπ–Šπ–— π•Ύπ–‘π–Šπ–Šπ–•π–ž · 2w
makes sense but why does he hate it, didn’t he author or co-author NIP-29?
Niel Liesmons · 2w
Lol, that's the last thing I'd dislike about Nip-29, oops.
fiatjaf · 2w
Well said. I would add that NIP-29 is unique among any other moderated group scheme in any protocol or platform by its ability to do centralized management combined with server migration (although the migration part was never implemented by anyone yet). It's the best of both worlds. If you read htt...
Laeserin · 2w
I can't believe anyone is still promoting NIP-72. Flash from the past, fr. I was probabaly using that NIP more than anyone else, and it was retarded.
utxo the webmaster πŸ§‘β€πŸ’» · 2w
I do all sorts of weird nostr stuff with my own clients and relays Nobody has been able to stop me yet, gfy all byyeee
ly · 2w
How is NIP-29 different from Lemmy in practice for example?