Marty.

We must ask the question....

Where does their fiat come from?

Are they getting liquidity from the Wall st fiat money printers?

Giving up bitcoin for counterfeit fiat, on which interest is levied is Usury in it's purest form.

It's completely immoral.

Consider having @Neal on the pod to discuss the subject of Usury and his book Modern Chains.

You won't regret it and the Freaks will be more informed!