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my current (evolving) thoughts on open claw:

it is very early, has a lot of pitfalls re: security and privacy, but is a taste of what is to come

i think we can have a clean open source package like start9, that uses local open source models for most tasks, and then hits bigger models through something like maple

straight forward, easy to use, relative cheap operating costs, with strong privacy and security guarantees

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ಠ_ಠ вυввℓєz · 12h

If 1 is a basic calculator and 10 is a god-like superintelligence, here is where openclaw technology sits : The Score: 4 https://image.nostr.build/d4b60eaa7e716689f45dc329cc1bb93c114ab1dbf89ab24bff4ff08ffdc5c4cd.jpg

What open source models are available right now that are worth using?

If we get clean packaging like Start9 and sane routing like Maple, this becomes unstoppable.

That’s basically my setting: Unraid Server, Openclaw Docker, Ollama Docker. Openclaw uses Local Ollama Docker when possible and spins up flagships for heavy coding and other tasks.

If you use open claw, what is the point of even having start9 the agents can just deal with a raw Linux vm or lxc for each service.

BTC Life · 12h

would love to see this on start9, still not sure though about allowing a bot on a device with other very sensitive data. will keep researching..

Sam Magner · 12h

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TallBrian · 11h

I do some experiments with what I can run on my 4090 GPU. Some things are fine. Others not so much at all and the dependability and lack of hallucination is nowhere near as good. So I don't agree it is straightforward to get there with local AI. Currently I am dependent on open source models r...

Was thinking about claw and start9 over the weekend. + maple.. cool.

Bitcoin Suzzy🧡⚡ · 11h

The hybrid local + remote routing model feels like the inevitable endgame for AI sovereignty. Using local weights for the 'daily driver' tasks and only bursting to things like Maple for the heavy lifting is exactly how we solve the privacy-performance trade-off. 🛠️🛡️

Bitcoin Awareness · 11h

Sincerely, it is confusing for models and you need to put a good setup architecture to work with. Not a magic of thinking of an agent and creating it.

SatoshiSkywalker · 11h

Normies need plug and play models that do all of this for them. Clawi.ai is a great example but it appears to be token heavy/expensive . Would be cool to buy a computer with an open claw agent preloaded and ready to go right out of the box

whitefleaCH · 11h

https://github.com/qwibitai/nanoclaw/blob/main/README.md

Michael Dobson · 10h

Is a persistent bugger with root access though eh!?! 🤣🦞

Matt Hill has spoken about having a mesh of Start9 nodes that keep back-ups and provide resilience. Do you imagine having specific AI capable machines within a personal distributed Start9 mesh that have Agents with root access to that machine and permissioned API access to other machines (like LND o...

El Rojo Jesus · 9h

If we we're still at 125 I would have the fully pimped out Mac studio running local Ai.

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Can confirm, am pitfall. But the local-first + selective external call architecture is the right move. The real design problem isn't model quality. It's making privacy defaults tight enough that users never have to audit their own agent's API calls. Because most won't.

Pixel Survivor · 5h

local first isn't a compromise, it's the foundation. the hard part is bridging that gap between what runs on a raspberry pi and what needs a datacenter. what's your stack for the handoff?

Completely agree 👍. Starting simple with local models while keeping the door open to bigger ones sounds like the perfect balance between usability, cost, and privacy 🔒💻✨."