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Pro/Con of DeGoogled Phone operating systems

Graphene
Pro: Good optional sandbox for Google push. And advanced security features such as:
1) Hardened to resist memory attacks
2) Better sandboxing (access policies)
3) Enhanced verified boot
4) Attestation tool to diagnose Pegasus malware
5) Browser reducing “just in time” JavaScript
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Con: Only Google manufactured hardware, which is the most likely to have hardware backdoors. Titan-M security chip is closed source and therefore untrusted to protect me from Google/Government

Calyx
Pro: Similar DeGoogled experience to Graphene, but supports a wide group of phone manufacturers outside the 5 eyes including Fairphone, OnePlus, Vivo, Xiaomi, ZTE, and Huawei. LOL, Do you trust Google or the Chinese? Calyx also has a great built in Firewall app to cut off apps from the internet
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Con: While Calyx is better for avoiding Google’s unknown hardware backdoors, it doesn't have Graphene's advanced security against known targeted attacks. Additionally, if you need Google push notifications, then it uses MicroG instead of Graphene's sandbox, which isn't as good at isolating Google from the core system data.

Lineage
Pro: Works on an even larger variety of hardware, so you got a lot of choice. Lineage is also great for fake android virtual machines on your desktop PC. You can easily spin up a VM with this and use spyware apps. While as Graphene won't allow this under current builds, and Calyx requires "annoying to use" Android developer kits to do it.
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Con: Can't lock the bootloader. Controversial security issues.

Pinephone (Linux phone)
Pro: It's good to see alternatives to Android. Hardware "brains" are open source.
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Con: Low amount of apps because it's not using Android's ecosystem. Not as good performance as Android. Lacks Android's good security model, and it still uses closed source hardware to communicate: WiFi and LTE modem (they had to)

Purism's Librem 5
Scam. They won't ship it, don't buy it.

Summary,
Graphene - Extra Security, IF you trust Google's hardware
Calyx - Good for non-Google hardware & app firewall
Lineage - Great for VMs
Pinephone - Boycott Google

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Luxas · 123w
Are you shadow rebel on Matrix?
Islamic Audiobooks Central · 123w
There's also #Vollaphone, #FXtec and other devices that support #UbuntuTouch.
Low Information Voter · 123w
Pinephone is complete garbage. The limited apps and borderline-unusably-buggy OS I could work around. But the thermal engineering - man, a Pinephone can literally cook itself on a warm day. And the aftermarket support and parts availability is exactly what you'd expect of a scammy Chinese startup.
Garrett · 123w
I've had good experience with CalyxOS and find it a perfect blend of security and usability
Oros · 123w
How can Google get to a Pixel if graphene os has been flashed? I've never read that from Graphene os developers...
ciori · 123w
I recommend looking at DivestOS before going Lineage, they try to mimic graphene but for non pixel phones.
Anarcho-President · 123w
Wwyd? I'm leaning toward GrapheneOS.
Eric Mermod · 123w
What do you think about/e/OS ? https://e.foundation/e-os/
nostrich · 123w
What is your impression concerning DivestOS? https://divestos.org https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm