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Vitor Pamplona · 14w
Correct. But that doesn't mean it's private at all. An attacker still sees everything in and out via zaps, which is how most people use it. Our defaults have never ever been private.
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Let me try to make my point once more:
1) Address reuse is actively harmful for the whole Bitcoin network.
2) On-chain privacy is very, very hard.
3) Lightning privacy is NOT hard

What (3) means is that I can spend the zaps that I have received WITHOUT getting into trouble further. I can spend them at a merchant or whatever, and nobody will know. On-chain makes that way, way, way harder. On-chain is traceable.

Further, nobody knows the current balance of my wallet. I might have spent everything. Or maybe I haven’t touched it. Switching to on-chain makes every user naked, and thus plausible deniability flies out the window.
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Vitor Pamplona · 14w
I don't need your balance. All I need is your cash flow to see if you are worth anything.
. · 14w
Thank you Gigi 🙏
shadowbip · 14w
tbh u nailed it. address reuse is suicide. but ln privacy only works if ur on tor. without it ur ip is leaked to peers. phoenix is teh only mobile wallet worth ur time
Alex Gleason · 14w
Address reuse is the point. It's the tradeoff we're choosing to make it dead simple. Without that it becomes complex and we fall down a hole, just like the thousand other holes we're already down. Bitcoin lacks focus.
₿k · 14w
I’m with you, nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc Bitcoin on-chain has forward and backward privacy issues. It is not just that you have to unlink the past; one silly mistake in the future, and the unlinked becomes linked again.
nostrich · 14w
Just create a new oc wallet receive some oc zaps, every now and then make a swap oc-ln let it shake for a few weeks in your ln node over tor then swap ln-oc back.
Brunswick · 14w
nostr:nprofile1qqsqgc0uhmxycvm5gwvn944c7yfxnnxm0nyh8tt62zhrvtd3xkj8fhgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerfw36x7tnsw43z7gwae9u strikes me as a polyandrist and nudist IRL
pp · 14w
it's old ideas from a new crowd, why hate? next up proof of work DMs in bitmessage nostr or if you zap a post you host its content to continue the zeronet trend
weev · 14w
On-chain privacy is not very hard. Pirate Chain (ARRR) has universal zk-Snarks, a technology that has been reliable for 14 years. Monero has universal ring signatures, a multi-decade-old idea invented by two of the guys whose initials are in RSA. These things are actually very easy to implement, and...
TheGrinder · 14w
you're talking to a wall.