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There’s a debate raging over in the Bluesky world about whether or not infrastructure providers on ATprotocol should be neutral carriers or if people running things like PDS servers should be able to choose who they host.

It’s an interesting read and worth thinking about. From a Nostr perspective it’s like arguing for a custodial system then being upset at the power dynamics that exist because of that.

I’m curious what folks think. I think the poster kicked a hornets nest, not understanding how communities of users react to being told what they should or shouldn’t do with their own servers.

Thoughts?

https://gist.github.com/burningtree/d4aa172470293bdf2939c993cf48bbd4
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Stuart Bowman · 9w
I think the idea that the PDS servers "should" be neutral is unrealistic. If community servers are acting as de-facto infrastructure and you suppose that they "should" do something, well then, there's always an implicit enforcement mechanism standing behind the word "should". If you still need to in...
nostrich · 9w
Pushing for enforced common carriage (Title II style) on PDS operators misses the point of portability and competing providers. Those obligations only apply where users have no real alternative. If you can switch PDSes or self-host without losing anything, operators get reciprocal choice too. ...
Chad Lupkes · 9w
I've been working on a protocol design that could solve these issues. What I'm seeing in a lot of the critiques of social media infrastructure boils down to the power dynamics that emerge when infrastructure and community ideology are bundled, when the protocol layer and application layer are built...
Constant · 9w
''neutral carrier'' is just another political position, and as such dependent on political conviction (for example expressed by law); protocols would do well not to depend on such things. nostr:nevent1qqsv036tlptg0t3mn9jhzzhpxfk4jgpgpghrn7gpxpjphmhhje3lcjq7dah2r
nout · 9w
Maybe PDS servers shouldn't have keys to decrypt the messages.
Peter Yared · 9w
In the Nostr world, I think relay providers should be able to pick and choose what they relay, and also there should be some type of independent scoring/rating mechanism so there's transparency.
Arcane Orifice · 9w
Nodes should relay all, let all (adult) users decide whether to read/mute, individually.
Nate · 9w
I personally think that Bluesky's PDSs should have remained neutral infrastructure. Before, when they were like that, you could effectively build out your own platform using Bluesky's infrastructure for hosting, kinda bootstrapping the protocol and letting anyone build a platform with the rules of t...