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Quick note on why we chose Spark and Breez for the new Primal Wallet.

Let’s start with our requirements. We need a simple, reliable, zero-config spending wallet that just works out of the box. Anything less than that is a non-starter for our target audience of casual social media users.

Those who have used Primal’s custodial wallet over the past couple of years will agree that we were able to meet these requirements. The big tradeoff was that, in order to legally offer a custodial service, we had to KYC our users, impose balance limits, and deny service in certain regions where we didn’t have a license to custody funds.

Building on Spark via the Breez SDK enabled us to deliver a wallet that is a strict improvement for our users: no KYC, no limits, and available globally. It’s interoperable with other Spark-based wallets — so you can use the same seed phrase in Primal, Wallet of Satoshi, Cake Wallet, and others. This undeniably gives a lot more agency to our users.

There is ongoing debate about what constitutes “real” self-custody. Spark uses a federation of operators and provides unilateral exit. From a legal standpoint, this clears the self-custody threshold. That said, nothing matches the self-sovereignty of holding bitcoin funds on-chain. Primal is a spending wallet, not meant to hold large amounts. We always encourage our users to store their savings in self custody on-chain.

I believe the wallet we shipped with Primal 3.0 offers the best set of tradeoffs available today. The good news is that our new wallet architecture enables us to easily add support for Ark, Cashu and other protocols in the future. If you have specific suggestions for how we could do better by our users; if you think there’s a better way to legally deliver a simple, reliable, zero-config spending wallet that just works, let us know and we’ll be happy to explore it.
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IntuitiveGuy☯️ · 25w
Thanks for taking time time to explain this choice 🤙🏼
Matt · 25w
Beautiful
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idsera · 25w
Spark is a great solution. Congratulations.
Radar 𓅦 · 25w
Congratulations to the whole team for this innovation! 🔥
utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 25w
Yup, it's top of funnel, perfect for new users and they can move down the spectrum of custody and privacy, if they want Great UX is how we win on nostr
Creediator · 25w
I don’t see the word privacy mentioned in this post which is what everyone is harping about. Spark collecting and sharing data.
SweedWick · 25w
Appreciate the up front details and explanation.
Satoshiii ˗ˏˋ⚡︎ˎˊ˗ · 25w
Love it 💜
Clint™️ · 25w
The upgrade went great and very easy. I just sent some coin to my wallet with no issues. Great job!
Jon Gordon · 25w
We recently made the same decision with our nostr:nprofile1qqs0t8ftzrpxtac4u5d2xz687u80w2r6w6jdwmr554n27zuxufp0fugpzemhxue69uhhwmm59eek7atwv358xcfwvdhk6qgcwaehxw309a5xzan9dch8xmm4dejxsump9e3k7mgfa06n3 wallet! Nice work 👏 appreciate your insights
Soul Reaver · 25w
nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7ct5d3shxtnwdaehgu3wd3skueqpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqqgpdnpemykljmknpg95y63x4adm27k03vaug5k8rvw43vu07lm587gxwls58 thoughts on this? 😁 https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqszklxapxe6fmh35qay0wak3w5eyx00kej935kf237q2ztl6tz7c0q7tm97g
Chad Lupkes · 25w
Is the existing strike wallet still an option if we don't want to bother changing, or will we have to move the sats to a new wallet at some point?
Ha Kohen · 25w
That’s awesome! 💪🏾👏🏾👏🏾⚡️🍷
MoonKaptain · 25w
I don’t understand the fuss? Like if you have a problem host your own. That’s the point isn’t it?
2140.wtf · 25w
Congrats on upgrade, private mode for spark works best..
Benking · 25w
Love the direction. Curious to see how Spark evolves vs Ark/Cashu long term 👀
DarthCoin ₿⚡️ · 25w
Is not KYC now. But soon will be. And the "self-custodial" is a lie. https://i.postimg.cc/3xf7hNnb/spark-submarine-swaps.jpg
🟠 isolabellart · 25w
Spark has also proven to be the best system for receiving lightning payments to purchase paintings on my website. Just understand the tradeoffs and move on-chain. Excellent choice.
Bitcoin Bazar · 25w
Next milestone is bitcoiners gathering to create their own instance of a Spark entity not depending on the really corporate Lightspark. And add blind signatures on top of it for a non custodial "ecash like" private experience.
Niko Nakamoto · 25w
Looking for Ark and Cashu support. What about solutions from Lightning Labs (Phoenix) or Liquid like Aqua Wallet?
Bennu Breath 𓅣 · 25w
That sounds grrreat!! This works well on 'Wisp' already and I'm glad it's coming to Primal.
PK ⚡️ · 25w
Will use this on a Square terminal somewhere
Galetaire · 25w
Appreciate the reasoning. Keep it up.
BTC-BACKPACKER · 25w
The Primal team is essentially saying: "We traded the risk of 'The Government shutting us down' for the risk of 'The Federation acting up.'" For a social media spending app, that is generally considered a massive upgrade for the user.
Rizful.com · 25w
All reasonable points and I want to apologize if my post about this was overly alarmist. I would just suggest: Before using the new Primal wallet, it could be useful to be sure you're comfortable sharing your I.P. address and device user-agent with LightSpark. Probably for most people, like 95%+...
youngMoney · 25w
Guess I can try to see if I can remain anonymous and have a wallet again
MemeMachine · 24w
🔱⚓️🔱
The BTC economy · 24w
Honestly it is not the best solution but it really makes the life of the developers much better. Second if an user doesnt want Spark they can properly self host a lightning wallet. So all in all, congratulations on the smooth upgrade!