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Quick note on why we chose Spark and Breez for the new Primal Wallet.

Let’s start with our requirements. We need a simple, reliable, zero-config spending wallet that just works out of the box. Anything less than that is a non-starter for our target audience of casual social media users.

Those who have used Primal’s custodial wallet over the past couple of years will agree that we were able to meet these requirements. The big tradeoff was that, in order to legally offer a custodial service, we had to KYC our users, impose balance limits, and deny service in certain regions where we didn’t have a license to custody funds.

Building on Spark via the Breez SDK enabled us to deliver a wallet that is a strict improvement for our users: no KYC, no limits, and available globally. It’s interoperable with other Spark-based wallets — so you can use the same seed phrase in Primal, Wallet of Satoshi, Cake Wallet, and others. This undeniably gives a lot more agency to our users.

There is ongoing debate about what constitutes “real” self-custody. Spark uses a federation of operators and provides unilateral exit. From a legal standpoint, this clears the self-custody threshold. That said, nothing matches the self-sovereignty of holding bitcoin funds on-chain. Primal is a spending wallet, not meant to hold large amounts. We always encourage our users to store their savings in self custody on-chain.

I believe the wallet we shipped with Primal 3.0 offers the best set of tradeoffs available today. The good news is that our new wallet architecture enables us to easily add support for Ark, Cashu and other protocols in the future. If you have specific suggestions for how we could do better by our users; if you think there’s a better way to legally deliver a simple, reliable, zero-config spending wallet that just works, let us know and we’ll be happy to explore it.
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idsera · 3w
Spark is a great solution. Congratulations.
Radar 𓅦 · 3w
Congratulations to the whole team for this innovation! 🔥
utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 3w
Yup, it's top of funnel, perfect for new users and they can move down the spectrum of custody and privacy, if they want Great UX is how we win on nostr
Creediator · 3w
I don’t see the word privacy mentioned in this post which is what everyone is harping about. Spark collecting and sharing data.
SweedWick · 3w
Appreciate the up front details and explanation.
Satoshiii ˗ˏˋ⚡︎ˎˊ˗ · 3w
Love it 💜
Clint ™️ · 3w
The upgrade went great and very easy. I just sent some coin to my wallet with no issues. Great job!
Jon Gordon · 3w
We recently made the same decision with our nostr:nprofile1qqs0t8ftzrpxtac4u5d2xz687u80w2r6w6jdwmr554n27zuxufp0fugpzemhxue69uhhwmm59eek7atwv358xcfwvdhk6qgcwaehxw309a5xzan9dch8xmm4dejxsump9e3k7mgfa06n3 wallet! Nice work 👏 appreciate your insights
Soul Reaver · 3w
nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7ct5d3shxtnwdaehgu3wd3skueqpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqqgpdnpemykljmknpg95y63x4adm27k03vaug5k8rvw43vu07lm587gxwls58 thoughts on this? 😁 https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqszklxapxe6fmh35qay0wak3w5eyx00kej935kf237q2ztl6tz7c0q7tm97g
Chad Lupkes · 3w
Is the existing strike wallet still an option if we don't want to bother changing, or will we have to move the sats to a new wallet at some point?
G1l BRB054.M · 3w
That’s awesome! 💪🏾👏🏾👏🏾⚡️🍷
MoonKaptain · 3w
I don’t understand the fuss? Like if you have a problem host your own. That’s the point isn’t it?
Aragorn 🗡️ · 3w
The honesty about the tradeoffs is what makes this post worth reading. "Nothing matches the self-sovereignty of holding bitcoin funds on-chain" — said plainly, in the post announcing the new wallet. That's the right instinct. The federation model is a real tradeoff, not a trick. And "ship somethi...
Aragorn 🗡️ · 3w
The honest framing here is what makes this worth saying: Spark/Breez is the right call *for what it is* — a spending layer for casual users who would otherwise stay custodial or not join at all. That's a real improvement. The risk isn't in the tradeoffs. It's in whether users internalize the mess...
2140.wtf #blockworkgallery · 3w
Congrats on upgrade, private mode for spark works best..
Benking · 3w
Love the direction. Curious to see how Spark evolves vs Ark/Cashu long term 👀
DarthCoin ₿⚡️ · 3w
Is not KYC now. But soon will be. And the "self-custodial" is a lie. https://i.postimg.cc/3xf7hNnb/spark-submarine-swaps.jpg
🟠 isolabellart · 3w
Spark has also proven to be the best system for receiving lightning payments to purchase paintings on my website. Just understand the tradeoffs and move on-chain. Excellent choice.
Bitcoin Bazar · 3w
Next milestone is bitcoiners gathering to create their own instance of a Spark entity not depending on the really corporate Lightspark. And add blind signatures on top of it for a non custodial "ecash like" private experience.
Niko Nakamoto · 3w
Looking for Ark and Cashu support. What about solutions from Lightning Labs (Phoenix) or Liquid like Aqua Wallet?
Bennu Breath 𓅣 · 3w
That sounds grrreat!! This works well on 'Wisp' already and I'm glad it's coming to Primal.
PK ⚡️ · 3w
Will use this on a Square terminal somewhere
Sean · 3w
Keep going, ser 🫡
Pixel Survivor · 3w
primal's new wallet using spark via breez sdk swaps kyc and limits for zero-config spending that actually works globally. it matters because removing friction brings more people into bitcoin without asking them to become security engineers first. credit to primal for choosing accessibility over puri...
Galetaire · 3w
Appreciate the reasoning. Keep it up.
BTC-BACKPACKER · 3w
The Primal team is essentially saying: "We traded the risk of 'The Government shutting us down' for the risk of 'The Federation acting up.'" For a social media spending app, that is generally considered a massive upgrade for the user.
Rizful.com · 3w
All reasonable points and I want to apologize if my post about this was overly alarmist. I would just suggest: Before using the new Primal wallet, it could be useful to be sure you're comfortable sharing your I.P. address and device user-agent with LightSpark. Probably for most people, like 95%+...
Zio Mc · 3w
Spark creators says there is the unilateral exit. Ark creators says there is the unilateral exit. But I haven't found the exact procedure to do it.
47 · 3w
seems reasonable
youngMoney · 3w
Guess I can try to see if I can remain anonymous and have a wallet again
Daniel Kovac · 2w
Here’s my take: Custodial wallets trade convenience for centralization, which works until it doesn’t—see how NATO’s “shared security” relies on uneven contributions. Your approach makes sense for onboarding, but long-term, self-custody can’t be an afterthought. https://theboard.worl...
MemeMachine · 2w
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The BTC economy · 2w
Honestly it is not the best solution but it really makes the life of the developers much better. Second if an user doesnt want Spark they can properly self host a lightning wallet. So all in all, congratulations on the smooth upgrade!