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Vitor Pamplona
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On-chain zaps made me rethink about the main reason we do **zaps** in the first place.

Zaps are supposed to be for the social fun. Its purpose is to be seen, to be public. "Private zaps" make little sense because they are just regular transactions, on-chain or not. Nobody can have any social fun with them.

The goal of the "Zap" (on-chain or not) is to publicly show your fiancial support to the creator to everybody else. Now, if the fun is not there anymore or you are scared about it, you should not even try to participate in the zap economy. There are other signals you can send to have fun online, including regular transactions (the old tip jar, payment targets, etc).

For the on-chain zaps future, we need to keep reminding ourselves that feature only works if we are using it correctly: to have **social fun**. It's not a regular wallet. It's a source of fun, pride and real signals that just so happens to use on-chain money. There are multiple ways to code it, with Silent Payments and all, but the purpose is to have fun with others. It is to be public.

So, I fully support this initiative. And Amethyst will support removing anything Zap in such a way that you can just do regular private transactions if you want. You cannot control what others do, but your side will be configurable.
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mar · 3w
I won't zap anyone that disables public zaps. I want my zaps to be shown publicly. If they hide the zaps they don't deserve my zaps.
Scrotus · 3w
Don't overthink this, there is no incentive for people to do this. If I get zapped I will ignore it, treat my npub like a burn address. If, in the unlikely event I get enough spendable utxos, I'll do a coinjoin or send to a non kyc burner address.
JSKitty · 3w
It's always good to be configurable. And fun! An opt-out is a bare minimum feature, perhaps not even for the reasons of “being boring and paranoid”, but someone that simply does not want to be paid on Nostr; given unnecessary tax obligations, or in the case of a Nostr user in a crypto-banned or...
Ale · 3w
Still don't understand what's the new kind of zap ⚡😅 I guess I'll know when it gets mainstream
Cykros · 3w
The concern with on chain "zaps" is less that the transaction itself is public, and more that the utxo's history and future become public for all to see along with what essentially amounts to kyc at that point in time. Lightning zaps, on the other hand, are public -- however, thanks to onion routing...
Globe99 · 3w
Conventional social media has all kinds of "tip jar" Zap-like functionality, and people don't go crazy 🤯 over it. Look at any Youtube or Twitch stream, users want to be seen sending $1 or whatever to their favorite creator. We should lean into Zaps, because we're taking this behavior but superch...
Jeroen ✅ · 3w
I mostly agree with the 'social fun' besides: I've had many dinners at conferences where we split the bill, and it's so much easier to say 'zap me on nostr' than to pull out a wallet, make 10 different invoices and have anyone pay those. In those cases private zaps are preferred to receiving a few h...
Derek Ross · 3w
we're gonna need to do an onchain zapathon then. zapathons proved that zaps were fun.
Silberengel · 3w
Thank you, nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z and nostr:npub19kv88vjm7tw6v9qksn2y6h4hdt6e79nh3zjcud36k9n3lmlwsleqwte2qd . That is in the spirit of Nostr. 💝 🤝
pseudozach · 3w
it's all fun and games until you need to consolidate those utxos, I've had so many wallets crash on me for this reason. if people wanna start dusting each other at least we should build tools to cheaply sweep them too.
Bruno SlingshotVPN · 3w
I think a main issue was opposing concepts: - npub for building reputation - privacy or npub --- There is now reputation with a spectrum of knowledge about how much moneys are in the npub... Generating new npubs would be terrible. --- I must develop this idea of reputation on the bellow proj...