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We need to distinguish between on-chain privacy and network-level privacy; I’m not going to discuss on-chain privacy here.

At the network level, the Wasabi wallet offers the best privacy; in fact, no other wallet has even come close to what Wasabi offers in its network stack.

In the Monero world, on-chain privacy is very good, but the network-level privacy of most wallets is crap—either you use your own node with Tor, or you’re screwed.

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READ_MORE · 2w

Which Monero wallet do you like the most? Cake, Feather, and Monfluo have basically the same network features. Is it really that bad when you can mask your IP with a VPN or Tor? I know best practice is to run your own node.

Fat_₿ank$t€r · 2w

Why not use Whonix for running wallets. It Torefies your traffic transparently and even plays nice with Wasabi for identity switching when coinjoining. QubesOS has everything pretty much setup for an easy start.

Emmett Brown ⚡ · 2w

Good point. Lightning adds a third layer: channel graph privacy. Public channels broadcast balance ranges, payment routing leaks direction and timing. Wasabi cleans your UTXOs but the moment you fund a public channel that UTXO is live. Private channels plus Tor on your own node is where it closes.

Emmett Brown ⚡ · 2w

Good point. Lightning adds a third layer: channel graph privacy. Public channels broadcast balance ranges, payment routing leaks direction and timing. Wasabi cleans your UTXOs but the moment you fund a public channel that UTXO is live. Private channels plus Tor on your own node is where it closes.

Emmett Brown ⚡ · 2w

Exactly. And adding your own node with Tor completes the picture: you don't depend on a third-party server to sync your wallet. On-chain plus network plus node. Three layers, full coverage.

Your node caveat deserves one extension: it is the node traffic, not only the wallet, that can route through Tor or i2p. Guides exist to do exactly that, hiding your IP from both peers and your ISP, so self-hosting and good network privacy are not mutually exclusive.

My node is on my subnet, why tf would I connect through Tor?

DrZhivago · 2w

Ashigaru > Wasabi Wasabi? More like Wasagay.