@nprofile1q... Thanks Sam, yes I have his book but have no read it. Honestly have quite a collection of books from spooner to rothbard to other anarchist/libertarians but have not spent enough time reading them.

I do side with that side of the spectrum just because I respect a lot of the knowledge those individuals have as it matches up with my mind. However, there's quite a few things I don't agree on.

I am not an open borders person, because if you want a libertarian country (if your aim is do it by vote) then you're not going to be importing people to vote for it, they will vote for their interests which is socialism.

Secondly, if mass immigration is the cloward piven strategy and you're capitalist, the aim of that tactic is to destroy a capitalist system or whatever sembelence of a system you are trying to tilt back to more free markets.

Thirdly, the NAP is kinda problematic and doesn't work at a large scale nationally. Because while liberty focused people are NAPping, the collectivists are Planning and will take by force - I would imagine.

It would be better society in total, but with public education being ran by marxists, society teaching people to feel like perpetual victims ontop of schooling, etc... A libertarian society seems likely unattainable

just my 2 cents before my coffee is made.