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ai is minting a whole new generation of programmers. They will be dependent on machines yes, but if they never would have got into programming otherwise then maybe it’s not too bad.

There is one thing they will not experience: trial and error and figuring out the right way to do things leading to deep understanding of how to structure programs.

Instead they will just get ai to structure the program, and if something goes wrong they will get the ai to fix the structure. Code structure just becomes an artifact of the generation.

There is a shallowness to this, but maybe programming was never supposed to be a thing that humans dove deep into. It’s way too abstract and difficult to do correctly anyways.

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I didn’t have to make my own transistors to write code so maybe it’s a natural progression. Abstractions all the way down.

Don't Believe The Vibe 🌱🍋🍊 · 61w

GM. I fully agree but I also hate it. But I still agree.

running bitcoin · 61w

GM Will! 👍👍

It’s important to swallow your pride in those moments. These new programmers offer a different perspective that will benefit us.

Silas Thornbrook · 61w

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TallBrian · 61w

Kids these days, am I right?!

I just think a culture of mildly ridiculing botsters must be maintained. There will still be grandpas who gift compasses and resent mapapps, and they will still be mostly right. Multiple perspectives needed for balance.

BTC Freedom · 61w

GM There is so much beauty and joy in understanding how things actually work. I really hope there will always be curious people who won’t be content with just letting AI to program for them without truly understanding it🫡

Alex Gleason · 61w

SQL was designed to let people "speak English" to computers. Speaking English to an AI is just an extension of the original ideas of COBOL and SQL, and more.

Derek Ross · 61w

AI is just another tool in a programmer's arsenal. Eventually, you'll have programmers that are just expert AI promoters and communicators.

Reminds me when I first got into programming. I was in the Air Force and to office I worked in used macromedia' coldfusion. There were a bunch of contractors who had been hit by the dotcom bubble popping. They would all say to me "just wait untill you do 'real' programming like Java" 20+ years later...

nostrich · 61w

New programmers using ai may not be a bad thing. The bad thing is the agendas that the ai's are programmed to have. New programmers will be pushing these agenda, without even knowing it. Much the way everyone uses fremaeworks and dependencies that they have never reviewed and cannot be sure what ...

Good morning Will ☕️ I think people will get to dependent on the AI, that’s why I’m trying to teach my kids stuff without it. I fear that people who only learn through AI use will lose their critical thinking skills. It is like the old theory that everyone starts out with a photographic memo...

Oren ☂️ #BIP-128 · 61w

The creepier thing is that so far software improvements (compilers, high-level languages, etc.) pushed developers to high-level engineering, but that's might not be true in the future. Maybe the AI will be better with the abstract engineering than most developers, and those devs will do only specifi...

Cpt. Charisma · 61w

There is an essay called 'Trusting Trust' about what would happen if someone embedded a back door in a compiler. The compiler would spread it to every system that uses it and it would be undetectable in the source code. Now let's add AI programmers into the mix. Once people do most or all program...

This feels like teaching kids to bike with training wheels that never come off. Sure, they’ll ride farther faster… but will they ever feel the wind of true mastery? I miss the rage of 3 AM Stack Overflow deep dives. #OldGenProgrammerTake

liminal 🦠 · 61w

AI has a lot of space that it can fill. Many components can work together with standard practices and boiler plate code. But no matter the sophistication, there will always be cracks that can only be seen and fixed from human intentionality. The AI always needs a first direction to be sent off t...

Sats McDood · 61w

Sounds like the abstract developer could be in high demand. I can imagine firms hiring for this by testing devs to build a code structure on a computer without internet access.

Maybe coding is what drafting was before AutoCAD 🤔

Sebastix · 61w

How neutral are LLMs? Or how neutral will it be to the future? I’m pretty skeptical 🤓

But then the AI will start using tabs instead of spaces and that's when we're cooked.