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At a small Princeton event last week, among other panels and speeches, Carole House spoke about censoring bitcoin.

She is the former director of cybersecurity for the White House National Security Council, and prior to that was at FinCEN focusing on cryptocurrencies, and prior to that was in the military.

Some of her main points:

-Energy-related regulation may push some hash rate outside of the U.S., whereas she would rather see more of it in the U.S. so that they can force miners to censor the network on the base layer. She also views international cooperation as a necessary component for successful censorship. She also wants stakers to be forced to censor their PoS networks.

-It's not just about telling miners not to mine certain transactions, but to not even build atop blocks that have non-compliant transactions, so that those transactions don't get anywhere in the chain. A 51% attack, in other words. Her main concern is censoring states like North Korea from being able to participate in the network.

The event was interesting because there were several very different perspectives. On one hand there was Roya Mahboob talking about using bitcoin in Afghanistan, followed by Troy Cross, Craig Warmke, and Natalie Smolenski talking about the importance of bitcoin from an ethical perspective. On the other hand, there were panels about Bored Apes and speeches about how to censor the networks.
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Petroit · 175w
Pretty disgusting, unethical and down right evil if you ask me. #[0]
aidan · 175w
Carole represents the final boss.
Brent · 175w
Certainly she can see how absurd those ideas are. Can she not? She can't be serious, right?
Rune Østgård · 175w
Mining needs to decentralize.
Fat_₿ank$t€r · 175w
Stratum v2 is definitely needed!
🍊💊⚡️🌽 · 175w
Been there, done that…….. Love to see them attack Bitcoin unsuccessfully…………. It grows the conviction even more in the network………… Even with concentrated ASICS miners sequestered and fully controlled, the honey badger will reorganize, redistribute and act accordingly preserving i...
Btcfeen · 175w
This is why distribution of hash among different countries and distribution away from mega miners is important. Harder to censor a million miners in usa verses 10
donna · 175w
She’ll die and be replaced by people who understand bitcoin. These people talk, but don’t say anything of consequence. Just talk.
stacktoshi 🚀 ∞/21m · 175w
Was it close to this: https://youtu.be/jiNo-T71FLk ?
David A. Harding · 175w
I think that's kind of an interesting dynamic. One one hand, if you have >50% of hash rate in the US, then you have a ~$5 billion/yr industry that at least some politicians are going to want to keep happy. On the other hand, if the censorship is egregious, either the value of BTC is going to drop ...
MAC · 175w
Is this the inevitable progression of the state? I can only see an increase in this central planning nonsense.
todd · 175w
At least currently, I think most of the miners would be non compliant or move to another country. Perhaps #Bitcoin is the beginning of the rise of the global south. I think it's becoming more likely.
Hurvajs Rumcajs · 175w
The question is if the rest of the miners would mine on top ofthe compliant blocks? Forks.
aeon 📜CTV + CSFS · 175w
White market mining is a security risk, always has been and always will be. Black market mining is the real security model. Unknown hash is the only secure hash.
Cpt. Charisma · 175w
- Miners will leave the country or shut down if they are banned from including too many profitable transactions. - Miners who attempt to comply will constantly be at risk from people who aren't completely stupid sneaking their 'banned' transactions in to blocks. They could easily end up in the pos...
GreenFinger · 175w
what a loser
PiecoverBTC · 175w
Stratum V2 Could be the counterattack where more miners are able to build transactions in a block instead of mining pools. I am not sure about the 51% attack stuff cause transactions would only wait till they find a good miner with profitability incentives. This is why I don't think miners should co...
One of us · 175w
Efforts by more governments to keep Bitcoin mining within their borders could potentially enhance the security of the network, even if their aim is to exercise censorship.
Bud · 175w
I’m starting to need a tally of normies like House, Willard Munger, et al who are so terrified of Bitcoin that they want to kill it vs. the Warren Buffets and Paul Krugmans who insist it’s worthless. These are not the same.
johnny · 175w
Where was the empire of freedom and democracy lost? Knowing this more convinces me that it is a utopia to expect something positive from people in positions of power. I can be wrong.
Ali Jaderi · 175w
Good luck with that.
Cyber Seagull · 175w
Ah yes, Roya Mahboob, Motorboat Expert. Good conf.
Phaedrus · 175w
Super interesting. Thanks for reporting. How will governemtns figure out which UTXOs should be censored? How will governemtns enforce the censorship if miners can't be located or move to different jurisdiction? Did they answer any of that?
₿lack Swan · 175w
Then they fight you.
LadyA · 175w
Hmmm don't really find anything interesting about ignorant tyrants. It's very common, and therefore extremely boring.
JohnOnchain · 175w
🚩🚩🚩🚩 #[0]
Aaron · 175w
I just posted about Pocahontas Elizabeth Warren's attack on #Bitcoin saying it's destroying the climate etc they're going to go hard to destroy Bitcoin cause it brings people joy and the government don't want you to have anything in fact you'll own nothing and be happy is there motto. Scandalous!!!!
rejon · 174w
wow thanks for being on the ground
Kudzai Kutukwa · 174w
For those like me that have been curious to catch a glimpse of this talk, finally i found a link to it and here it is https://vimeo.com/819245954
Tom Samuel · 162w
Most people with authority live in their reptilian brains. They have been heavily programmed with fear and greed and have no clue what freedoms and love are. They are not even alive. They want others to be more fearful than they are. That’s the only way they can feel that they exist.