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🚨 only for reckless testers, this is not a release!

help me find a reasonable proof of work limit by testing out this build of bitchat with proof of work for spam prevention (the same way bitcoin prevents spam btw).

https://limewire.com/d/2ZYzQ#sZPuofd9nr

- download and install
- go into a geohash chat
- write something, see semicolon guy
- turn on proof of work, notice the difficulty slider
- write a few messages
- increase difficulty, write a few messages

📝 report: device, max difficulty

at what difficulty does it take your phone more than a few seconds to send a message? which device are you using? which operating system?

comment below so I can gather some data. appreciate you 🫡

calle @calle · 58w

proof of work; https://blossom.primal.net/7d8bfbe52216219013562cabe64776517cffbe91a6f6c6ff495a3d10fff6fcd2.mp4

4416❤️36🤙11❤1🍮1👍1💞1

nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3zamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0qqs0fk6jwz7ejxchh6s7d5p473w7uwffr8pfga9m4sgrgtfz836wp5qv6d7rz link fixed! thank you

Long live "reckless testers"

𝚁𝚢𝚊𝚗 🏴‍☠️🎶 · 58w

Pixel 8 pro Up to 15 bits is very fast. 16 gives a slight delay. 17 up is a noticeable delay.

Limewire is still a thing 😮

Not seeing the pow option in 1.2.2 from that link graphene pixe6a

Android v15 arrows we2 Semicolons became invisible in pow1. On my device, posting with pow20 or higher takes several dozen seconds.

The end goal is to have relays verify the POW too, right?

Satoshi Coffee Co. · 58w

Haven't seen ;;;; guy yet, but I feel like the maximum for a manageable time to send for UX was around 15-16 bits. Pixel 8 on calyx (soon to be graphene🤝)

TIL Limewire still exists.

vinney...axkl · 58w

12 feels easy and cozy, not much differet than the ui state changes you'd expect from a 'sending' action. 15 takes a couple seconds but i don't mind if i've chosen it and i know why. pixel 7, grapheneOS

armstrys · 58w

Geohash appears grayed out. What am I doing wrong??

a1denvalu3 · 58w

Consensus seems to be 13 bits

Erik Jan · 58w

Samsung S24 (SM-S921B/DS) Android 15, 16 bits = 5-7 seconds. 15 bits = 2-4 seconds. 14 bits 0-5 seconds. Just sent messages, not seeing semicolon guys atm.

Yeah I think the big question is. What delay when sending a message is acceptable for UX. I don’t have an Android so I can’t test it on bitchat, but will work on implementing this in coolr. My guess is that a second or so would be fine. Especially if there some animated visual that indicates som...

I wonder if nostr:nprofile1qqsg73x9vycmxcnx3v8qr05vwxey0pje3wmglwgfeltcl2lmqkxapuqprdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuam9wd6x2unwvf6xxtnrdakj7qgmwaehxw309ankcetpwdhkuct5daezuer9wchhyetvv9usz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0g9vq0e has any suggestions, getwired.app had this feature

benthecarman · 58w

This has been tried so many times and never works. Your phone won't be able to compete with a desktop computer so there's no real way to do PoW prevention. Bitcoin works because of reusable PoW, where you can delegate it to specialized people, not make it something everyone does.

axelhamburch · 58w

I just tested v.1.2.2 with Google Pixel 8a, GrapheneOS and found that with difficulty: 15 bits, the letter "p" (as a message) takes between 2 and 19 seconds. 🤷 https://nostr.21mio.space/d68e59145a7a1dceee7ff69d2f3412ceabd045049d852669bc81a9f9ccf78788.jpg

Phone caught fire at 15

Benjamin Henderson · 58w

mahdieh✨ · 58w

love style of text box, writing & font! unique design!

LifeOfBrian · 58w

Hello everyone, can someone explain how the Proof of Work principle works in this context? Thks a lot 🖖

Did you managed to handle that

Colby Serpa💡 · 58w

Bro dropped a limewire link 😂 you guys are having too much fun lol.

Сгуртісо · 56w

Pixel 9a, GrapheneOS, Bitchat running in a private space. Any difficulty adjustment seems never-ending, even 1 bit. https://blossom.primal.net/f7a7446039ed764fc4d88bb97078cba219786a8df22b14ae1f39158df28e7198.mp4