The only one it seems I need to get rid of is Primal. They seem to have been the biggest providers of spam amd scam Bots for quite a while now. I don't see why they can't get on top of it.

Always has been

But I only have the forest and spatia arcana so I'm not sure why 🤔

yes correct 100% all depends 👉 correct / shuffling relays 👉 client app / mute / wot settings (never bother what u not see - not try to police nostr as vigilante)