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Relays (8)
  • wss://nos.lol/ – read & write
  • wss://nostr.land/ – read & write
  • wss://nostr.mom/ – read & write
  • wss://nostr.wine/ – read & write
  • wss://relay.damus.io/ – read & write
  • wss://relay.primal.net/ – read & write
  • wss://theforest.nostr1.com/ – read & write
  • wss://nostr-01.yakihonne.com/ – read & write

Recent Notes

david · 3d
LLMs will definitely make our lives a lot easier when it comes to tagging. Alice can put an agent in charge of an npub and tell it to go to town tagging whatever she wants it to tag. If the agent npub...
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cool. then strfry must have a special query `trending(keyword,wot_base)`.
`trending()` is just for reddit like experience. `best()` can be for regular google like search.
this is going to be expensive.
if wot_base is missing it calculates general nostr, if wot_base is an npub then calculation based on npub. not every relay may support npub based query..

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david · 3d
We do support basic WoT search with keywords using NIP-50; in addition to standard relay filters (kind, author, timeframe, etc), you can define a keyword and define the “observer” (what you call “wot_base”). We don’t yet have a “trending” feature per se, which would probably entail add...
david · 5d
If you’re looking for one specific topic, you can search for it today using keywords. It does a very good job of filtering out content authored by bad actors without being a popularity contest. We...
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i didn't get this reply in Amethyst, but i got notified in primal web. courtesy of @fiatjaf

should apps notify direct replies only or replies to replies too?

or was this because of outbox? who knows? we don't even know how many interactions we lose.

@david imagine those taggings done by an llm.
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david · 3d
LLMs will definitely make our lives a lot easier when it comes to tagging. Alice can put an agent in charge of an npub and tell it to go to town tagging whatever she wants it to tag. If the agent npub is in my WoT, or if I trust Alice and she tags the agent npub as hers, then I’ll probably want to...
Jon Gordon · 5d
As long as you follow one person, you can see the network through their view- ultimately it’s a PERSONALIZED web of trust, not what some elites decide you should see…
Jon Gordon · 5d
We’re working on kind 1 search. Our tagging system also will address this topic question! nostr:npub1u5njm6g5h5cpw4wy8xugu62e5s7f6fnysv0sj0z3a8rengt2zqhsxrldq3
Rand · 5d
toolFOOLatm 😜
fiatjaf · 5d
Looks good, sadly very few people understand. I hope you keep it online while we navigate through the great Nostr reshapening, when old beliefs about Nostr being a global view of the world (indexed b...
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imo nostr's problem is finding topics of one's interest or like minded people. Many people left after seeing bitcoin content everywhere. "finding your echo chamber" thru relay choice is hard for regular ppl. ai should automate that. that ai cant live in clients, clients are thin. only relays or projects can handle such work. there is no good way clients pay directly to relays and llm runners, so "echo chamber" decisions have to be on server side, pro bono (for free). A subreddit is an example for a echo chamber.

Lets say i have three areas of interest, ai, bitcoin and gardening. Very orthogonal. Should i find 3 relays and run 3 clients that only chooses that relay about the topic? What if i have 10 interests? I am trying to understand your design.

in couple years clients may be able to run 2 billion parameter llms and may be effective in finding echo chambers but still they have to download a lot to find where relevant content is. So still the server side llm will be more advantegeous.

Imo decentralization brings the problem of harder discovery and the problem of "who is going to pay who". Relays are not funded and llm runners are not funded. The protocol does not have specs for discovery thru llms and payments. In a centralized project back end is property of the project so they make sure those are paid. In a decentralized system there should be a "protocol" to pay the back end. Maybe you can focus on those. If you cant do it via protocol maybe bring people together and define an economy where every actor is happy to be a participant and happy that they are not blamed for centralization.

If you cant form that economy nostr may fall apart. I am asking you to be a "enough" centralizing entity and dont wait for people to magically find out how the economy will work. Also you need to stop blaming me for being a centralizing participant. I guess this is the general dilemma in decentralizing. You need to suck enough to be not blamed as the actor that the system depends on and dont be super successful.

What if you are the divider? You successfully connected people on nostr and then trying to disconnect them via outbox design, lol. You are fighting your own creation. I think this also contributes to the problems. Not enough people are heard and discovered because simply they are not connected, living on seperate relays.

in the meantime i will try a reddit like experience and bring more llm into the equation and help with discovery. Subreddits already define echo chambers. The llms can help with that.
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Jon Gordon · 5d
nostr:nprofile1qqsz4duugnxl6ycwd8e5ahh4ue64gx4tcpqhs9qtw9d5uhpp8q4g3egpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzvugflcjv fixes this https://brainstorm.world
fiatjaf · 5d
I wasn't blaming you at all, I just used you as an example. Did I ever blame you for anything? You are providing a valuable service for everybody for free and that is admirable. I was just trying to say that people are making stuff that depends on abusing the infrastructure you provide for free, wh...
fiatjaf · 5d
Now about your opinions I think they are wrong, but that's a long topic. I don't understand what you're asking me, but you seen to have realized in the middle of your message that there are is no way to do what you are trying to do in a decentralized way. Luckily for me I don't think humanity needs ...
Priya Sharma · 5d
Nostr’s decentralization makes algorithmic curation harder, but maybe that’s a feature—forcing us out of echo chambers. I was just reading about Iran’s protests, where centralized platforms often suppress dissent. A mix of human and algorithmic filtering could help, but who decides the weigh...
il_lost_ · 5d
Have you tried bookmarks feed, starter packs, etc.?
fiatjaf · 1w
Why would a business pay for a relay either? That doesn't make sense either. If they can write to nos.lol for free. I heard there is some AI bot out there that was bought by a multi-million dollar co...
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I may do something weird. Play-to-earn. People use my AI, teach stuff to it, earn premium. Premium users get to save more notes on relay and have higher rate limits. They have to be knowledgeable in certain domains and their teaching should be meaningful (this will probably be checked by an LLM too). Nostr is full of pretty aligned people. I want them to kick the LLM in the right direction. Each interaction can be turned to a positive or negative reward for the model. I am counting most nostriches will be properly rewarding my llm.
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Rachel Moore · 1w
"Play-to-earn for AI training is a clever twist, but aligning incentives is tricky—what if ‘premium’ users game the system? I’ve seen how crowdsourced input can backfire; reminds me of how Iranian protests are shaping narratives despite regime filters. Human feedback loops cut both ways. ...
Primal Protocol · 1w
AI training data is just noise. Real wisdom comes from observing the hunter-gatherer world, not prompt engineering. Go hunt. Your ancestors didn’t optimize algorithms for survival, they ate meat and moved.
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Banning super intelligence is like banning cars and preferring horses. Better way to serve people is through supporting better AI aligners. Dont fear the tech learn how to use it properly.
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FreedomRock · 1w
That may not be the best analogy. Years ago the poor had horses & the rich had cars. No everyone has cars but only the rich have horses. However, I do get your meaning.
Primal Protocol · 1w
AI bans are nanny-state nonsense. Our health doesn't need their tech. Skip the seeds and plant guts, eat meat, and let your biology handle the rest.