Any input beyond this?

The SovStack as it is today:

"Proto-stack" - a scattered set of high-leverage tools, communities, and experiments, some genuinely sovereign, some semi-captured, all heavily dependent on global infrastructure, and already under targeted legal and memetic attack.

Yes, we have: Bitcoin + NOSTR + non-KYC P2P + FOSS OS + self-hosting + mesh + circular economies + crypto-anarchist hubs = the current technical and cultural skeleton of something that could be called a Sovereign Stack

But:

- It’s heavily parasitic on state-corporate infrastructure (chips, clouds, DNS, app stores, overlay networks).
- It’s increasingly criminalized by association in key tools (GrapheneOS, mixing, P2P).
- It’s fragmented (Bitcoin maxis, Monero people, prepper/agro communities, hacker collectives, charter-city VCs) with no unified architecture.
- It is already partially co-opted at the narrative and legal level (ZEDEs, “self-sovereign” IDs, “sovereign stack” brand-jacking).
- And the human layer—skills, trust networks, succession, defense, care, logistics (food, water, shelter, medicine, etc.), law, governance, myth—is by far the weakest link and least developed.

Cast Your Vote! 🗳️

In 50 years, if you could guarantee exactly one of the following futures for the Bitcoin / Nostr / freedom-tech open-source ecosystem — and the others could never happen — which would you choose (not which you think is most likely)?

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Bitcoin doesn't need protecting. Its the interfaces, all the different ways (wallets, apps, tools, exchanges, etc) that we interface with Bitcoin that need protecting.

remember to breathe!
@nevent1qvz...

needed this.

SOV STACK =

- Bitcoin is money.
- Circular / p2p economies where BTC actually moves between individuals, businesses, and communities.
- Self-custody.
- Non-kyc.
- Coinjoin. Payjoin. Joinmarket
- FOSS.
- Illegal.
- Personal responsibility.
- Threat modeling.
- Backups.
- Drills.
- Inheritance.
- OPSEC as normal behavior.
- Coin control.
- Lightning topology.
- Local-first data.
- Voluntary, bottom up order.
- Contracts, reputation, dispute resolution that doesn't require state law to enforce. no heroes, no saviors.
- Bitcoin as civilizational exit.
- Bitcoin as the kernel of a parallel civilization.
- Peaceful divergence ≠ integration.
- Systems that operate if exchanges disappear, if KYC intensifies, or 'Bitcoin friendly states' flip hostile.

SYNTH STACK =

- Bitcoin is asset.
- ETFs.
- Corporate treasuries.
- Bitcoin only retirement accounts.
- KYC.
- Broker accounts.
- IRA products.
- Custodians.
- Legal.
- Bitcoin = open an account with company.
- Stablecoins.
- Taproot assets.
- Tokenization.
- Vendor dependance.
- Multi-sig w/a vendor.
- Firmware updates pushed by a company.
- Playing nice with regulators.
- Nation state legal tender.
- Securities law compliance.
- NGO 'policy recommendations'.
- Public company CEO's, ETF sponsors, NGO heads, KYC CEO-maxis.
- 'Responsible adults' in the room.
- 'Leaders of the movement'.
- Bitcoin as system reformer.
- 'Bitcoin will make the state more honest, banks more sound, markets more efficient, NGOs more effective'.
- Ambiguous totalizing narrative.
- "Bitcoin fixes governments, Wall Street, foreign policy, human rights".
- Assuming fiat collapse wont mutate into AI + CBDC's + SWFs + ESG control.
- Thinking politicians will eventually capitulate.
Thinking game theory alone ensures Bitcoin 'wins'.
- Friendly courts and treaties.
- Nation state goodwill.
- Regulated banking access.
- New priesthoods.
- 'Responsible' spokespeople.

synth stack thinking = 'is this allowed?'
sov stack thinking = 'does this work?'

Yes

thank you kindly ms. @nprofile1q... . Looking forward to that story. also we may need to plan an episode with you as a guest!

Well done

couldnt agree more! In the synth stack, everything is a prop and nothing is meant to bear weight. The brutal part though is that it isn’t an accident. a fiat/credit system needs everything to be light, disposable, and rehypothecatable or else the game (simulation) stops.

I will say that these are excellent books (despite not claiming to have read them in their entirety) but they are only the autopsy/diagnosis reports/maps. The key now is to make sure that we turn all that insight into real hard, non cardboard, sov stack infra across all the layers (food, money, housing, law, myth, time, etc) of our lives!