If you're not talking to your agents...

are you even vibing?

We can't - only relays could track IPs and we're one layer removed from their logs.

Isn’t that just gaming the retention figures? I agree with the idea that we can probably come up with something that cleans this up a little, but a fair way isn’t immediately obvious to me

Want to give me the old stuff for import into pensive?

There is likely some tuning that I need to do on that W0 calculation to filter some extremely low intent/low value pubkeys from the calculation.

Yeah, we're talking about the same thing. NIP-17 uses kind 1059 - we don't pubkeys that publish 1059 events since we'll only ever see those used one time.

That's actually really interesting (and good to know since I was worried that I was missing something).

So - what's happening here is that it gets the full list of all pubkeys that we've seen, then fetches the most recently published 10002 event for each, then get's all the relay URLs from that (normalizing the URLs and throwing away complete trash along the way) and then counts.

Yes, there are a lot of pubkeys that have very old relays on their lists. There are also obviously some bot forms in there as well I'm guessing.

There is - it's about 5k urls, many (most) of which are not live. I can have a look now that it's been running a week or so to see what data I have on those. The relay stat tracking code is very basic at the moment, it's an area of the app I'd love to improve on.

It includes any new pubkey we saw publish their first event in that week. I'm happy to hear ideas on how to better tune that.

😬 sorry for robbing the name! I didn't even realize.

There is an API but it's not open quite yet while. What sort of data would you want just the same data that I'm showing on the site?

I have it running on a bare metal server that costs ~$70/mo from Hetzner.