Nunya Bidness · 155w Nailed it. We are so used to shitty 'everythings' that we have an entire generation that have no idea that a refrigerator or a washer/dryer was expected to be reliable for over 20 years. Had a Mayta... Byzantine @Byzantine 1679139421 in the comments it would be useful to know if quality products.i have -a 11 year old subaru impreza that is near perfect in terms of reliability and durability -a 8 year old mac mini that is a reliable home server -7 year old zojirushi water heater and rice cooker-dewalt tools are still wonderful-klein tools are quality-whirlpool gas drying machinesthere are still good things out there and those companies will lead us through fiat decline 1🤙1