But they aren't. They have their own kinds. The generic flow is really simple. Request - status (like payment request) - response. Thats the generic "useless" description. Everything else is documented in the other repo for specifics

Are they really “bundled” tho? Individual DVM kinds are like bubbles that form and may pop, and someone can come along and use those kinds again later. Right now, they aren’t “in” the spec anywhere except maybe it was using one of the reserved kinds.