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What are other nostr app developers and relay operators doing with regard to the UK Online Services Act?

Apparently there is no legal exception for open source or apps that are not connecting to servers you control or apps that are entirely encrypted and peer to peer.

Basically they want us to KYC anyone they think might be based in the UK, and implement content filters.

There seems to be no way to be in compliance in Nostr without limiting all connections to a single gateway relay the way Primal does, and with geo location, including blocking tor and vpn connections, and content analysis of all text and media.

Basically insanity which is completely counter to the entire Nostr project. I knew there was some of OSA coming but I hadn’t paid attention to it. None of us want to KYC our users or build a content filtering system. I mean how do we know if a post is about a knife? Yes we can’t have content about knives! Or how do we determine who considers content hateful?

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/online-safety/information-for-industry/illegal-harms/illegal-content-codes-of-practice-for-user-to-user-services.pdf?v=391681

What are Nostr devs based in the UK doing? Users? Relay operators?
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wolfpy · 27w
I think they are laying low… not sure what more I am not tech savvy
Leo Wandersleb · 27w
Certainly not going to geo-block or filter out knife content. Here's a picture of part of my current shopping cart. https://npub1gm7tuvr9atc6u7q3gevjfeyfyvmrlul4y67k7u7hcxztz67ceexs078rf6.blossom.band/b0e1f8b177993dde7d82c5f5ad255ba81d78b6bde096b9801398dcf444899623.png If our friends on the island...
Brian · 27w
Insanity is taking a leap forward!
Neo ⚡️ · 27w
Stop complying.
El Dorado · 27w
I would love to know also. Could you expand on this part « without limiting all connections to a single gateway relay the way Primal does »?
nix · 27w
I don't really know the answer, but I like how Bisq are doing their dev work - explicitly advising everybody who wants to contribute to be as anonymous as they possibly can. I know it would add a lot of extra effort, but if you're building apps which are likely to be seen as disruptive, then it pro...
Lunapilot · 27w
Hopefully they are thinking ahead and making sure they are not exposed in any way to the insanity of the Globalist agenda (This isn't just happening in Britain or Australia - every western country has some form of it going on!) Be like Satoshi and stay hidden even as you contribute.
Don't Believe The Vibe 🌱🍋🍊 · 27w
Oh no, a foreign government I have nothing to do with came up with dystopian laws for their citizens. What should I do in regard of that? https://media.tenor.com/RL0-tTg3QOQAAAAM/oh-no.gif
🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit · 27w
Why would you comply with some British people asking you not to develop software you and your loved ones seem to have survival uses for? Do these people have some good argument for why you should comply?
il_lost_ · 27w
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☕ Shitlord 10000, with a HARD R · 27w
Kill Your Customer
Yπαρχος 0SUMfreeparity · 27w
You have to continue building Nostr and remove the chokepoints
Orange🍊Man👤 · 27w
Welcome! Welcome to City 17! You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centers. https://blossom.primal.net/e5c1e6df3d874f5f9f320213432becfd3aefbb9cf240323604e58d18b76d1ac4.jpg
miljan · 27w
My understanding is that the UK Online Safety Act imposes KYC requirements only on large social media services, defined as Category 1, who have at least 7 million active users in the UK. There are some obligations for smaller providers, like having mitigation practices for things like CSAM; stuff ...
Tim Bouma · 27w
My strategy is: 1. Collect no personal information 2. Encrypt everything 3. Store data on relays separate from the app 4. Make sure that only the user has the private key. 5. Any agent-type interfaces use a NWC-type interface via relays so that it is impossible to know where the listening agent re...
Orange Thoughts · 27w
Staying anonymous and not complying with any regulation. I don't see a way to fix the current system. The only way out is building a parallel one without bureaucrats.
Russell · 27w
I want to protect my users so I will do my best to achieve this goal
Beefy · 27w
They can take their laws and jam them right up their anal holes, is the nostr position.
Bac0t · 27w
we dont need to worry, nobody uses nostr anyway lol
Kayne · 27w
My prediction is that primal will be the only client in the app/play store soon. They'll ban all the other clients.
Frederic · 27w
This is exactly why decentralization matters — laws like OSA assume control and central authority. If compliance requires breaking Nostr’s principles, maybe the right move is to build more tools that make enforcement technically impossible.
AngryMulbear · 27w
Nostr clients are equivalent to web browsers IMHO. Until Chrome/Firefox/Brave are forced to verify age, I wouldn't bother complying.
cloud fodder · 27w
you first, what is nos.social doing? you could de-list in the UK to show that you don't have any interest in supporting this. perhaps go one further and replace the app with one that just talks about why these regulations are bad.
mleku · 27w
Molon Labe force them to make a china style great firewall.
mleku · 27w
who gives a shit what they do in backwards ass third world countries anyway. also, https://image.nostr.build/785b3a6de0c51257a704e473ef4eb57099a2fd4b7cea04b4875e2279a39cb954.jpg