It's first time I heard about the guy and don't know at all the topic you mentioning, so can't aay anything about it, but I agreed with you the timing and using of words for the thumbnail are absolutely a click-bait.

Overall like I said I did enjoyed the discussion per se, not that I agreee with his views or the podcast guy, but I do understand his point of view and I believe he has good points in somenof what he says.