I really like the @BULL BITCOIN wallet and it’s now my primary mobile hot wallet. The liquid/lighting atomic swap trade off is something we discussed and for a lot of instances, the slight slower transaction speed is a trade off I can accept. The implementation in the bull wallet is very quick and has gotten quicker recently. However, lightning is still quicker and my recommendation for someone that wants a ‘pure’ non custodial lightning experience was to pair with something like @Phoenix Wallet . That being said, I personally feel like the specifics around managing channels is still pretty challenging for a lot of people and I find myself using @Rizful.com for a lot of smaller/simple lighting transactions because it just works. I think there’s definitely a gap in the market for a simple non custodial lighting wallet that your grandma can use.