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makeheroism · 2d
"Immigrants, on average, have lower crime rates than regular citizens. " You can't keep saying this. This is a lie. There is NO ONE ON THE FUCKING PLANET COLLECTING THIS DATA. Do you understand ye...
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Based on extensive research from academic studies, government reports, and think tanks, immigrants in the United States— including undocumented immigrants— consistently show lower crime rates compared to native-born Americans across various measures, such as incarceration, arrests, and convictions. This pattern holds for both violent and non-violent crimes, and it has been observed over decades, even as immigration levels have risen while overall crime rates have fallen.
National-level data indicates that immigrants are far less likely to be incarcerated than the U.S.-born population. For instance, a 150-year analysis of U.S. Census data from 1870 to 2020 found that immigrants have never had higher incarceration rates than native-born citizens, and since 1960, the gap has widened: immigrants today are 60% less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born individuals.d5b5a7 When comparing to white U.S.-born men specifically, immigrants are 30% less likely to be imprisoned.c94104 This disparity persists even among less-educated groups, where native-born men without high school diplomas have incarceration rates three to five times higher than comparable immigrants from countries like Mexico, El Salvador, or Guatemala.6ed432
State-specific studies reinforce these findings. In Texas, which tracks immigration status in arrest records, undocumented immigrants had the lowest felony arrest rates from 2012 to 2018 compared to documented immigrants and native-born citizens.156d83 Undocumented individuals were arrested at less than half the rate of U.S.-born citizens for violent crimes (96.2 vs. 213 per 100,000), drug offenses (135 vs. 337.2 per 100,000), and property crimes (38.5 vs. 165.2 per 100,000).bca57b For homicide specifically, undocumented immigrants were convicted 26% less often than native-born Americans from 2013 to 2022.a4b834 Similar patterns appear in other analyses: undocumented immigrants are roughly half as likely to be arrested for violent crimes overall compared to native-born citizens.9c89eb
At the community level, areas with higher immigrant populations often experience lower crime rates. For example, as the foreign-born share of the U.S. population doubled from 6.2% in 1980 to 13.9% in 2022, the national crime rate dropped 60.4%, with violent crime falling 34.5% and property crime declining 63.3%.2f08fb County- and neighborhood-level research shows no positive correlation between immigrant concentration and crime; in fact, increases in immigrant populations are linked to reductions in homicides, assaults, burglaries, and larcenies.1c2f17 Homicide victimization rates are also lower for foreign-born individuals (3.28 per 100,000) than for U.S.-born (5.60 per 100,000), though rates vary by country of origin, with some like Honduras showing higher victimization.d1c405
While some political rhetoric and isolated studies suggest immigration could increase crime—such as claims tying it to economic pressures or specific subgroups like recent unauthorized arrivals—the overwhelming body of evidence contradicts this.a35d38 Factors like fear of deportation, stronger family ties, higher employment among less-educated immigrants, and community networks appear to contribute to these lower rates.

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makeheroism · 2d
"You're parroting talking points from mainstream news" Literally copies and pastes from fucking grok. Ok guess I'll show you where grok is wrong or at least telling you what you want to hear. "Across multiple datasets (incarceration, arrest, conviction, geographic trends), immigrants appear to ...