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Seth For Privacy · 147w

It's too long and I'm too tired to copy-paste it all here, but it's high time I finally comment on the ridiculousness of Coinkite/COLDCARD trying to pretend they are still open-source and playing word...

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Hey Seth - what is your steel man for why Coinkite have chosen to do things this way?

You've taken a very particular hard-line FOSS-maximalist position and also implied the MIT license is strongly **not** FOSS (although it actually is for most intents and purposes).

Also, I think worth mentioning here that this issue does not affect the quality and security of Coinkite products.

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#[4] did this because he is afraid of competition and loose on ethos. In other words, because he is weak. You're confusing MIT (FOSS) with MIT-CC (not FOSS, source available). It does affect quality and security of their products. Fewer people can build on top of their code means fewer eyes on the...

Seth For Privacy · 147w

They chose this path because it helps them build a legal moat around their products instead of compete in the free markets. MIT-CC is *very* different and a complete 180 from MIT itself, just to be clear here. ColdCard uses MIT-CC which is a restrictive "source-viewable" license and not open-sourc...

Respectfully, I don't think you're being fair here. That's not a steel man. The site you linked to make your case that the license is "not within the realm of open-source in any way" is really helpful and worth a read if people actually want to "DYOR" as you suggest: https://commonsclause.com/ I'm...

That last paragraph looks ripe for lawyers to sort out and suck more money up out of free enterprise. Even though Foundation forked from the permissively licensed code, NVK and co still continue to launch plenty of accusations Foundation was/is a re-skin of Coldcard with no substantial changes to t...

Seems like Foundation benefits substantially already from Coinkite's work, and continue to do so. Probably wouldn't exist at all without Coinkite. License clearly allows them to build on top of Coldcard firmware, so long as they are also adding value. It's disingenuous to claim it's not in the real...

First paragraph, yes foundation forked from coldcard and have always made this clear. Just like coldcard forked from trezor. The MIT commons clause license website faq explicitly states it shouldn't be considered open source. Sounds like you're running with incomplete information and ignoring the ...

😮‍💨 Was wondering why it feels like I'm going in circles here, and think I can see why now. You're arguing in bad faith because: 1. You're a Monero shill 2. You dislike #[11] because he criticized Monero Have fun yourself ✌️ #[7]

Lol, my arguments have been fine. Yours have been alright too, much better than anything nvk has said on the topic. From what I've seen him say on this and how he's acted, I think you're giving him too much benefit of doubt. Yes I don't like how nvk acts for valid reasons, in this instance included...