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Duncan Cary Palmer · 1w
Hello, Daniel, I appreciate your interaction; this is a conversation well worth having. There are many "logical reasons" for rational humans to view the state as enemy, but this meme is explicitly f...
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Note what you admitted. "Pilate himself knew Jesus to be innocent." The charges were sedition, treason, and rebellion against rome. He was innocent of opposing Rome. That whole claim is completely orthogonal to what Jesus was doing.

The fact that governments do things that are immoral is immaterial to whether or not they are a good. Humans also do immoral things and that does not negate the fact that humanity and each individual human is a good.

Jesus isn't your enemy because you have sinned, he is rather the enemy of sin itself. What he does is transform the imperfect into himself. This is true of all creation to varying degrees. He is not the enemy of the state he is the perfector of the state. A state that acknowledges him will over time be perfected.

Our current state does not, but again that doesn't make Christ its enemy anymore than a parent is the enemy of a disobedient child. To put christ in opposition to something in some sense puts him on a level with it at least in magnitude. He is not in competition with the idea of state because he is infinitely beyond it.

But even within scripture all signs point to cooperation with the state.

"Give unto Caeser..."

"If any presses you into service for one mile go with him two."

The epistles are also replete with admonishments to obey civil authorities.

Anti-government positions is a novel reading of Scripture at best. I understand the motivation, but it is wrong.
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Duncan Cary Palmer · 5d
Thanks once again, Daniel, for making the effort to respond, and for the additional points you’ve raised. In aggregate, they make it clear to me that—along with the vast majority of Christians—you’ve bought into the most widely adopted false narrative ever; statism. You endorse a world-view ...