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1. Coldcard was FOSS and bootstrapped - nvk and peter denied interested VC investors.
2. Foundation cloned code, announced slightly different hardware, raised money from those same VCs pre-product.
3. Coldcard changed software license to allow everything but that. No longer FOSS.

Coldcard source code is verifiable and reproducible. It can be modified and built but not sold. You can even add your own entropy during seed generation. I personally disagreed with their decision to change the license but it does not change the security of the product.

NVK is a friend. Coinkite is a sponsor of RHR. Ten31 is an investor in Coinkite. I have used and recommended their products before all of that but transparency is important.

I am personally grateful their team continues to build robust bitcoin hardware. My family relies on it.
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DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 · 149w
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thePR0M3TH3AN ✝️ BIP110 · 149w
I love my cold card but Iv been slowly migrating over to a seed signer multi sig. Less hardware and software risk to fuss with.
nontoxicmaxi · 149w
Thanks for the sum up.
Change this if you want · 149w
True ! Coldcard is must have !
DevilishLemonBar 🦥⚡🏳️‍🌈 · 149w
"Cloned" is an interesring choice of words for forking open source code. I guess Coinkite cloned the trezor firmware in that sense then. 🤡
Boog · 149w
I use both products. Both have pros and cons. Don’t really care about the arguments back and forth. Both products would have zero value if it wasn’t the FOSS project that #Bitcoin is.
pleb_world · 149w
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Sisyphus · 149w
Fuck thank you. Clear and concise. My setup is simple and solid - Sparrow, Whirlpool, MK4. Or Samourai on an old Pixel 4a running CalyxOS, if I’m making purchases. I’m good with this.
Neo ⚡️ · 149w
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SecondBreakfast · 149w
Just happy to have options!
Toshi · 149w
Different topic, but I’m curious about your view on Wasabi coinjoins because you were using it a lot in the past. Are you still? Do you consider their coinjoins reliable? What’s your thought?
muskeeto 🦟 · 149w
Doesn't change the fact nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8is one of the most annoying podcast guests.
BitcoinSandy · 149w
Have several Coldcards, amazing product for me
btconboard #LNHANCE or #CTV · 149w
Whether you agree or disagree, what is the pro case for paying a lot more for a Foundation vs coldcard or Q1? Why is it worth such a large premium? Even tribal loyalty aside, coinkite products are much cheaper and more proven(at least for now). All else equal I’d rather go with a cheaper option.
btconboard #LNHANCE or #CTV · 149w
Also did Foundation pitch investors: 1 actively lie about where their code came from, 2 simply fail to disclose where it came from, or 3 be fully transparent about where the code came from? I think which of those they did makes a big difference. 1 or 2 are not a good look. 3 feels fairly reasonable.
ChipButty · 149w
Love my Coldcards & have no intention of replacing them, but definitely won't be using Foundation devices though.
TonySly · 149w
Matt - Love everything you do for this space. 1. Why did you say clone vs fork? There is a distinction, AFAIK. 2. Was Coldcard's use of Trezor code a clone or a fork by your definition? I don't have a dog in the fight. We are where we are and we're all better off by way of competition.
ShiShi21m · 149w
Bc I was searching for something on bird app & came across this - didn't know he posted on Nostr. Either way, Clearly, Bitcoin didn't fix VCs (yet).
sneagan · 149w
I can’t find the Foundation dick move here. Investors wanted to fund a device. A team wanted to build a device. They got together and used the available tools to do it. “My license allowed this but I’m mad it happened” is silly. Preventing others in the community from profiting off your publ...