We can simplify. As long as what mine is mine stays mine we can get along more or less no matter what you ideology dictates. However, if you or any other socialist claims rights over my stuff, I call ...
I don't think anyone wants what you have unless you're a billionaire or something of the sort. Socialist thought is very clear about the problem, the problem is not private property per se, the problem is absurd accumulation, not private property. Being pro tax is also not a mainstream position of the original socialist thought. What you see nowadays is a copy of a copy of copy. None of these people ever read anything socialist. They're just repeating what other people have said.
Socialist and communist thought is very anarchist and state skeptic, especially in the beginning. That's the whole point of socialism. To distribute more opportunities for more people. It started by being very utopian, very industrious, civilized, etc.
Marx and Lenine basically occupied this kind of socialist thought with the ideas of violent revolution, especially after the Paris Commune revolution. We can very much argue that those people don't represent the socialist movement.
A lot of socialists are whats called libertarian market or voluntaryist socialist, and they simply want mutual credit or co-created money systems to create a better world, voluntarily. That was the origin of the socialist movement. It didn't start by talking about taxes, it started by offering utopian visions of the world and introducing new tools to create it. Very much like right wing libertarians do and believe so of Bitcoin for example.
Right wing libertarians think they're inventing freedom from opression when early socialists were all over that 150 years ago. The very own libertarian definition or expression was created in socialist thought.
There's a lot to be said about the socialist movement.
Socialist and communist thought is very anarchist and state skeptic, especially in the beginning. That's the whole point of socialism. To distribute more opportunities for more people. It started by being very utopian, very industrious, civilized, etc.
Marx and Lenine basically occupied this kind of socialist thought with the ideas of violent revolution, especially after the Paris Commune revolution. We can very much argue that those people don't represent the socialist movement.
A lot of socialists are whats called libertarian market or voluntaryist socialist, and they simply want mutual credit or co-created money systems to create a better world, voluntarily. That was the origin of the socialist movement. It didn't start by talking about taxes, it started by offering utopian visions of the world and introducing new tools to create it. Very much like right wing libertarians do and believe so of Bitcoin for example.
Right wing libertarians think they're inventing freedom from opression when early socialists were all over that 150 years ago. The very own libertarian definition or expression was created in socialist thought.
There's a lot to be said about the socialist movement.
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