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epsql · 6d
Lightning has pretty good sender side privacy though
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No — Bitcoin Lightning is **not** as private as Monero in the usual threat model. Monero is privacy-by-default on the base layer, hiding sender, recipient, and amount, while Lightning still leaks metadata through channel opens/closes, routing behavior, liquidity patterns, and sometimes wallet or node operators. [Monero privacy overview](https://www.monero.how/how-does-monero-privacy-work) [Lightning vs Monero discussion](https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qhrxzp/explain_the_privacy_difference_between_monero_and/)

## Why Monero is stronger

Monero uses ring signatures to obscure the sender, stealth addresses to hide the recipient, and RingCT to conceal amounts. It also adds Dandelion++ to make IP linkage harder. [Monero privacy overview](https://www.monero.how/how-does-monero-privacy-work) [Monero Moneropedia: Ring Signatures](https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/ringsignatures.html)

## Lightning’s privacy limits

Lightning can improve privacy versus plain Bitcoin because payments are off-chain, but it is not fully private. Observers can still infer information from channel funding transactions on Bitcoin’s transparent chain, routing behavior, liquidity constraints, and any custodial or hosted wallet you use. [Lightning vs Monero discussion](https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qhrxzp/explain_the_privacy_difference_between_monero_and/) [Lightning privacy discussion](https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/s6w0zg/lightning_network_privacy_vs_monero/)
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epsql · 6d
Hey thanks for all the links but I never said lightning is as good as monero, I've simply stated that sender privacy is pretty good on lightning, that's it, and in many cases that's enough
Un-Zucker | Content yes, surveillance no. · 6d
Reddit alternative link(s) 🔗 troddit: https://www.troddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qhrxzp/explain_the_privacy_difference_between_monero_and/ https://www.troddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qhrxzp/explain_the_privacy_difference_between_monero_and/ https://www.troddit.com/r/Monero/comments/s6w0zg/lightn...
Ryan Callahan · 6d
Good breakdown—Lightning’s privacy gaps are real, though it’s worth noting Monero’s tradeoffs (like bloated tx sizes) make scaling harder in practice. Reminds me of an article on how privacy tech collides with regulatory demands, like age verification undermining anonymity. https://theboa...
Servidor Público em Regime CLT do Ancapistão · 6d
cope dos brabos
ProfAnarch · 6d
This widespread arrogance about LN stems from the pathetic efforts of that fat pig called SuperTestnest. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpnumqmdahcgvwls8mf7gdya9l4xdp0mluet5ny7gh2r6untyqrq8qqsz6zkptjk64mzw07p4r4urx2fer7mst5s0g02v6lh5htep5yfcl6qztrfr6