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Max DeMarco
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Uncomfortable Nostr Reality check:

I've tried to Nostr-pill all my YouTube friends (some of them have incredible amounts of subs), but none of them care about the censorship resistance or decentralization. Even though they know Nostr exists, they have no incentive yet to come here. Their audience would follow them anywhere, but they need the tools to create community communications.

It's a sad reality, but it all comes down to usability, UX, and ultimately the easiness of paying and signing up for the community. None of these can afford to have a sign-up problem or issues with someone being interested in joining the community/their platform. It needs to work flawlessly and feel and look professional. Some of them charge $3-5k a year just to get access to this closed space, and people are willing to pay for this.

Another big pain point is community management. All of these YouTubers create these platforms to help their audience have a safe place to communicate with each other and build their own tribe.

Nostr is capable of facilitating all of this - we're just not there yet. We need to somehow invest so much more into UX and design.

All of this will come when the time is due. So, knowing that all of this is possible and that ultimately, Nostr will be powering most of these via the social graph, is what makes me extremely bullish. But also, let's not get ahead of ourselves and expect them to come already.

The UX and features are not there yet for these people. I am more than happy to help anybody trying to make this a reality. I want nothing more than having these people join Nostr. But I also totally understand their pain points. So, if you're a dev or a company working on this, please feel free to reach out - I can tell you all the issues they told me. Or just tell me how to best do this; maybe I can jump on a podcast so the issues are open-sourced for the whole community to hear.

#nostrdesign #asknostr

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HoloKat · 74w
Faaans
James Pierog · 74w
Good to step outside of the echo chamber and hear some real feedback Not too many ideologues on here will appreciate that though
HoloKat · 74w
I don’t buy that they dont care about censorship resistance when they are literally trying to save their asses by making a platform that doesn’t depend on Google making decisions.
Account deleted · 74w
It’s not only the UX. So much has to be done at protocol level to accommodate this kind of content creators.
⚡️ᗪㄖ匚⚡️ · 74w
Dead on… there still isn’t even a proper solution for key management for new users who don’t yet understand what private keys are. I have faith that it will come and that in time we will build tools and apps that take advantage of sovereignty of your social graph. The magic will come one day...
G.M.Joe · 74w
It's all correct. But nostr is only 2 years old. Remember YouTube in 2008? Was it what it is now? No. Because it needs time to evaluate what is needed.
The Ben Gunn · 74w
this is just one step in a process of improvement, next step to look for censored channels with a better reason to invest. This is just your early, ugly feedback. Everything has this at so early a stage. The tech will grow alongside the user need, and this is what shapes the adoption curve.
Ultimate Satoshi · 74w
You’ve hit the nail on the head. The core issue isn’t just the technology itself but how it’s presented to users. Many creators and their audiences expect platforms to be intuitive and seamless, with a strong focus on UX. Nostr has the potential to deliver this, but it’s clear there’s stil...
💥 💥 · 74w
Bear with me on this, as I may be a little out of touch. I cannot stand tiktok, facebook, youtube, and instagram, so there could be some innovation I am unaware of, but I thought content creators published content on their channels and the platforms gave them ad revenue share from all the views they...
SelfBankt · 74w
They need more pain. https://media.tenor.com/GbSVnCmgMFUAAAAM/bullish-crypto.gif
pseudo~u *likes nostr already* · 74w
Why would anyone come here when its just a bunch of bitcoiners? This has to happen naturally, and it will. There's literally going to be no alternative when the rest of the internet is getting shut down.
Latrica · 74w
Valid points Max. 🤝
Alekandar Svetski · 74w
True. There’s only one way through hell though - and that’s the keep going. Nostr UX sucks in comparison to what else is out there. I’m certain nostr:npub15xd2mmjnh3caykh77djsv73e0zkrp42jp5mwerx8f4m6su40wdvss7t3l3 1.0 will also suck. But that’s the only way, with limited resources, that we...
Hans Karlsborn · 74w
Nostr sucks. It is in principle a very good idea, but during the years I’ve been here the visible improvements, as I see it, are marginal. In the same period(since end of 2022) X has imroved HUGELY.. Hopefully Nostr in time will become a reliable and interesting space for video, podcasts, social m...
paul keating · 74w
YouTube/Rumble is the final boss. Zaps are cute, but paid subs is what they all want.
Carlos · 74w
Too naive. Creators need a revenue stream that is better than advertising and data capture. An opt-in ad-revenue module is needed. Let people choose the algos they want.
Cleanboi · 74w
I agree, Im just a regular average person. Although I am excited about BTC and everything that it represents, I do not know what to do with NOSTR. I think there has to be more than just Bitcoin stuff here. All the stuff should be here.
James · 74w
If you can’t delete posts Nostr is cooked. That is a non-starter for most.
Mr · 74w
I think this is really sad
CaqKa · 74w
My question is... Do we realy want and need all that influencer stuff here? What problem do they solve? How are they contributing to society? How will we know, that they will not somehow cheat the network so they will get more engagement? Also serious questions.
TKay · 74w
The majority want things to just work. “Just work” is way more important than censorship resistant for the vast majority.