Nick Jikomes, PhD: "Is the flow of electrons from food hydrocarbons to oxygen, is that the élan vital of life?"
Nirosha Murugan, PhD & Martin Picard, PhD: [laughs]
Nirosha Murugan, PhD: "Yeah, possibly. I think that's the bridge to bringing in some of the physical concepts, right? Like some of the physical laws if we're trying to reunderstand, reimagine biology. I think that could be that bridge to do that."
Martin Picard, PhD: "So I'd say, 'Perhaps.' We could ask, 'Is this flow of electrons, is that qi in Traditional Chinese Medicine, or is that prana in Ayurvedic tradition?' I think it might be, or it might be closely related. Those are very different concepts. The reason why qi is dismissed as woo woo in biomedicine is because it's not molecular, and we"
Nirosha Murugan, PhD: "I don't think we have the tools to measure that temporal scale of of energy."
Martin Picard, PhD: "Temporal or dimension. Conceptually it's a very different beast, and we don't have tools, or we don't have concepts with the lens of materialism or physicalism. We assume the physical molecular layer of existence, that which you can see under a microscope, run on a gel or in a sequencer, this is the true layer of reality, and then whatever happens in other realms doesn't matter. Like we can't perceive this, so it's probably not important.
"This is an assumption. This is a cultural assumption. Maybe it was a hypothesis like 60, 70 years ago. That hypothesis has turned into dogma."
Martin Picard, PhD & Nirosha Murugan, PhD with Nick Jikomes, PhD @ 01:58:09–01:59:47 (posted 2025-10-29) https://youtu.be/GiwDfsIgziA&t=7089
Nirosha Murugan, PhD & Martin Picard, PhD: [laughs]
Nirosha Murugan, PhD: "Yeah, possibly. I think that's the bridge to bringing in some of the physical concepts, right? Like some of the physical laws if we're trying to reunderstand, reimagine biology. I think that could be that bridge to do that."
Martin Picard, PhD: "So I'd say, 'Perhaps.' We could ask, 'Is this flow of electrons, is that qi in Traditional Chinese Medicine, or is that prana in Ayurvedic tradition?' I think it might be, or it might be closely related. Those are very different concepts. The reason why qi is dismissed as woo woo in biomedicine is because it's not molecular, and we"
Nirosha Murugan, PhD: "I don't think we have the tools to measure that temporal scale of of energy."
Martin Picard, PhD: "Temporal or dimension. Conceptually it's a very different beast, and we don't have tools, or we don't have concepts with the lens of materialism or physicalism. We assume the physical molecular layer of existence, that which you can see under a microscope, run on a gel or in a sequencer, this is the true layer of reality, and then whatever happens in other realms doesn't matter. Like we can't perceive this, so it's probably not important.
"This is an assumption. This is a cultural assumption. Maybe it was a hypothesis like 60, 70 years ago. That hypothesis has turned into dogma."
Martin Picard, PhD & Nirosha Murugan, PhD with Nick Jikomes, PhD @ 01:58:09–01:59:47 (posted 2025-10-29) https://youtu.be/GiwDfsIgziA&t=7089