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Matt Corallo · 25w
People are going to say what they say. They might also reasonably say that cause Mark Karpeles was proposing a fork to reclaim the mtgox funds. But as much as you try to argue these are similar situat...
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IOW, personally, I came to the conclusion ECC should be disabled (in conjunction with a commit-reveal scheme to allow pre-BIP-32 wallets to retain ownership without revealing they still have the keys) precisely because it is *less property-rights-violating than the alternative*.

Yes, it’s “us” violating some property rights instead of “them” violating all property rights, but I think the distinction is really weird? Like, it feels like shoving our heads in the sand to pretend reality doesn’t exist (once a CRQC is undeniable) instead of facing a tough decision.
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ynniv · 25w
the only threat a crqc poses is to get us to make poor choices. once we realize this, "us" vs "them" simplifies to "us"
Constant · 25w
the problem is the notion of property rights to begin with, but apparently the practical reality of things is too much for people to bare so they replace it with ideological abstraction. Its all just as silly as saying that a miner that finds a valid blockhash has the "right" to be included into th...
waxwing · 25w
Your identifying the ZK exit proposals is useful. I'd point it back to our earlier discussion, somewhere, where I was saying something along the lines of "there is a catastrophic faliure mode that is unavoidable". In the scenario where a CRQC is developed, quickly, before escape routes are created, ...