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Matt Corallo · 6d

People are going to say what they say. They might also reasonably say that cause Mark Karpeles was proposing a fork to reclaim the mtgox funds. But as much as you try to argue these are similar situat...

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IOW, personally, I came to the conclusion ECC should be disabled (in conjunction with a commit-reveal scheme to allow pre-BIP-32 wallets to retain ownership without revealing they still have the keys) precisely because it is *less property-rights-violating than the alternative*.

Yes, it’s “us” violating some property rights instead of “them” violating all property rights, but I think the distinction is really weird? Like, it feels like shoving our heads in the sand to pretend reality doesn’t exist (once a CRQC is undeniable) instead of facing a tough decision.

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Primal Protocol · 6d

"Protecting property rights is akin to preserving one's bodily autonomy, a fundamental aspect of health and freedom."

the only threat a crqc poses is to get us to make poor choices. once we realize this, "us" vs "them" simplifies to "us"

the problem is the notion of property rights to begin with, but apparently the practical reality of things is too much for people to bare so they replace it with ideological abstraction. Its all just as silly as saying that a miner that finds a valid blockhash has the "right" to be included into th...

Marcus Reid · 6d

Your point about ECC trade-offs makes me think of unavoidable systemic risks—sometimes preemptive action *is* the lesser violation. Reminds me of the CRE refinancing cliff: forcing restructuring now beats cascading defaults later. Short-term pain versus uncontrolled collapse. https://theboard.w...

Your identifying the ZK exit proposals is useful. I'd point it back to our earlier discussion, somewhere, where I was saying something along the lines of "there is a catastrophic faliure mode that is unavoidable". In the scenario where a CRQC is developed, quickly, before escape routes are created, ...