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The complicated aspect about the Social Security system in the United States is that it was falsely marketed.

It's called an "entitlement" because people pay into it and are supposed to get it back like a pension, regardless of whether they are rich or poor when they retire. And so the Baby Boomer generation views any cuts to their social security as a rugpull, basically. It's not insurance or charity; it's an entitlement.

However, although it was marketed as like an entitlement/pension, that's not how the math worked out in practice. And it's because population growth is slowing. It was based on ponzi math, assuming that every generation will be bigger than the one that came before it. But the Baby Boomer generation was huge.

In addition, when Social Security was created, the retirement age was set near the average life expectancy. Many people would not live long enough to collect it, and most would collect it for a handful of years. Only a small minority of outliers would work for like 40 years and then live off social security for like 20+ years. But then over the decades, life expectancy increased by like 15 years, so the default assumption is indeed that someone can work for 40 years and then have 20+ years of retirement, even though the amount they pay into it doesn't really mathematically cover that. It's not designed for that en masse.

And so Baby Boomers had like a 3.5 worker-to-retiree ratio to support in their peak earnings years, while Millennials will have more like a 2.5 worker-to-retiree ratio or less to deal with. Which means they get a worse deal. Many Millennials don't even think they'll get it at all, despite paying into it.

That breaks up the social contract and sets up inter-generational political conflict. "Fourth Turning" stuff.

It's a big reason why "defined benefit" plans are inherently unstable; they rely on being able to predict the future.

And it's also a big reason why, when speaking about deficits, nothing stops this train.

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Ben Ewing · 84w
Or congress just cuts entiitlements
David Caseria · 84w
I'd like to hear one politician (or political commentator) offer one suggestion for what to do. But no one has one, so catastrophic collapse seems like the only outcome.
Digital Au · 84w
The system needs review and a reasonable discussion of potential adjustments. No politician is willing to engage on the topic due to potential impacts on their reelection chances. More aggressive ideas like allowing a portion to be privately invested (in bitcoin?) have even less chance of progress...
frphank · 84w
This.
Ben Ewing · 84w
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protozoan numbness · 84w
There was a really good Cato Daily podcast on social security on July 17th: https://www.cato.org/multimedia/cato-daily-podcast/social-security-still-poses-massive-fiscal-risks
John Christensen · 84w
Yeah, this is such a big and complicated issue. It's crazy how things have changed since Social Security was first set up. It’s like the system wasn’t built to handle all these shifts in population and life expectancy. I doubt there’s a way we can adapt to make sure everyone gets what they’v...
crany 👽🧡🗿 · 84w
it's a ponzi now
Rusty Russell · 84w
Australia transitioned away from defined benefit schemes in the eighties and early nineties, and has increased retirement age (not a legal concept here, but when you can access a pension or your benefits) has been increasing too, from 55 when I was young to 67 currently. I'm not a huge fan of the r...
Choke · 84w
#meme #memes #memestr https://image.nostr.build/c06c0bbe2237e9fd53c5ab60a3a86ed9c30c02f831bf695c35d7ffd56add8671.jpg
Bud · 84w
We of Gen X would like to thank the Millennials and Gen Z for working to fund our pending SS benefits. Now stop farting around on NOSTR and get back to work.
HelpingHand · 84w
https://open.spotify.com/track/3acmo6HflOsvrpTd3XJ0tn?si=4xaIdXrEQcCQkQM9pziahw
Yukito Nakamura · 84w
Wait, social security in the US is linked to the Social Security Institute in there? Which document are the taxes put on? We have the CPF/CNPJ(Brazil's EIN).
Weatherall · 84w
and if you really want to know what it is: nostr:note1ghkar5fsg33ch62j5w79xausmkualy3cm5qvwe498w8qsssckdas5n4p50
Matt · 84w
I never asked to be a part of this ponzi, and I’m certainly not counting on it.
plebiANON · 84w
Boomers are, on average, getting something like 13x what they paid in even when adjusting for inflation. Social contract is completely broken. They should at least be cut off at inflation adjusted contributions.
Kaizen · 84w
So basically were fucked
Lea · 84w
"SCREAMING!: SO AS AN 'EXPERT IN ECONOMICS', WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST AS A SOLUTION TO THE ISSUE YOU BRING UP?!"
Vermeil_Kisser · 84w
Meh, I don't plan on paying for any gay social security crap.
Satosha · 84w
All they need to do is buy #bitcoin with the inflows keeping outflows in fiat ..
Hedraios · 84w
I appreciate your mind / thoughtfulness / precision Love me a good engineering-background #Bitcoin er
pleb123 · 84w
As a millennial, I say it’s time to rugpull the boomers. Maybe they can just cut back on the Starbucks.
Aintdatsumish · 84w
I am Gen x and I am positive I will not receive any SS. But who GAF! I created my own retirement.🤡🌎
Liberty Farmer · 84w
The changes to the costs and cola increases botched it. You can't 'pay into it' in 20-30 years ago tax amounts and collect in today's present value. Insanely easy to grasp scam.
FlyoverJoe · 84w
choo choo
Creediator · 84w
So keep raising the retirement age? Work yourself to the most unhealthy days of your lives.
E · 84w
Would appreciate your thoughts on real estate in the context of the value that the Baby Boomers will inevitably pass on to their kids. While they may have deprived the younger generations of home-ownership and the future value of “entitlements,” bricks and mortar might be their most meaningful...
nostrich · 84w
Social security is a huge Cantillon scam. The govt and their fascist cronyies on wall st get your money today at full value and give it back to you as inflated , devalued money sometime in the future. They throw you some bones from interest and investment returns, but the big returns go to Wall St. ...
I)ruid · 83w
Ok so hear me out... Instead of requiring that employees pay into Social Security, the State requires that this amount be converted into bitcoin sent to a time-locked address that YOU hold the keys to, that is locked until whatever the "retirement age" was when you started employment. Different po...
Jer · 83w
Thank you for your service. GM! 🫡