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Lyn Alden
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The complicated aspect about the Social Security system in the United States is that it was falsely marketed.

It's called an "entitlement" because people pay into it and are supposed to get it back like a pension, regardless of whether they are rich or poor when they retire. And so the Baby Boomer generation views any cuts to their social security as a rugpull, basically. It's not insurance or charity; it's an entitlement.

However, although it was marketed as like an entitlement/pension, that's not how the math worked out in practice. And it's because population growth is slowing. It was based on ponzi math, assuming that every generation will be bigger than the one that came before it. But the Baby Boomer generation was huge.

In addition, when Social Security was created, the retirement age was set near the average life expectancy. Many people would not live long enough to collect it, and most would collect it for a handful of years. Only a small minority of outliers would work for like 40 years and then live off social security for like 20+ years. But then over the decades, life expectancy increased by like 15 years, so the default assumption is indeed that someone can work for 40 years and then have 20+ years of retirement, even though the amount they pay into it doesn't really mathematically cover that. It's not designed for that en masse.

And so Baby Boomers had like a 3.5 worker-to-retiree ratio to support in their peak earnings years, while Millennials will have more like a 2.5 worker-to-retiree ratio or less to deal with. Which means they get a worse deal. Many Millennials don't even think they'll get it at all, despite paying into it.

That breaks up the social contract and sets up inter-generational political conflict. "Fourth Turning" stuff.

It's a big reason why "defined benefit" plans are inherently unstable; they rely on being able to predict the future.

And it's also a big reason why, when speaking about deficits, nothing stops this train.

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TallBrian · 88w
Give millennials the option to opt out and just pay for boomers retirement by hyprinflating the currency. 5-10 years of hell but a clean slate. 🤷‍♂️
metalhead.btc · 88w
agree. I’m paying into it but i dont count it into my retirement portfolio.
Feels Guy · 88w
Had a boomer friemd tell me I owe him bc I'm "young". He's worth millions and I have nothing.
cwilbzz · 88w
Terrible conundrum when something needs to be done but can’t be done at the same time
NostrNaught · 88w
Excellent analysis... You can almost feel the unconscious expectations of decisions decades past... They just assume that it's supposed to be this way.
DominikWeil · 88w
"And so Baby Boomers had like a 3.5 worker-to-retiree ratio to support in their peak earnings years, while Millennials will have more like a 2.5 worker-to-retiree ratio or less to deal with. " // I certainly vividly remember how, in our later high school years, during the "Social Studies" class, we...
Danny 👾 · 88w
Ponzi scheme dressed in a pension's clothing.
Mischa · 88w
In Switzerland, all citizens can vote on specific issues, and this year, pensions were a major topic, especially because everything has become more expensive due to inflation. We even voted to introduce a 13th monthly pension payment, although the financing for it has not yet been finalized. Since y...
Deleted Account · 88w
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Nusa · 88w
Where I’m from, when millennials mention they don’t expect to ever get any pension from their mandatory payemnts into the system, the older generations mostly agree that it doesn’t look great, but their answer is that we now have this extra gov-run fund where you can invest additional money in...
just one more thing · 87w
this is why I view my humble stacking of BTC as a future pension of sorts. I can imagine the gov will keep jacking up the pension age anyway and the reality is most people are barley physically or mentality capable for 9-6 jobs past 55 and even then good luck getting a job (I'm talking avout normal...
curt finch · 87w
they will just print more pieces of paper and then they'll hand them to the old people old people vote 30 years ago I thought it was insolving and I really didn't think I was ever going to get any but now I'm 60 I think I might get a little bit they will means test it. tax it .AMT it it won't be...
Gregersen · 87w
The worst part about this is kaeeping the forced payments. I mean, one could see how they miscalculated, but preventing millenials from saving like this is almost evil, and certainly selfish behaviour
pleb123 · 87w
As a millennial, I say it’s time to rugpull the boomers. Maybe they can just cut back on the Starbucks.
Sean · 87w
As a millennial. I have decided I won't see a state pension. It's a reason (amongst others) why I chose Bitcoin. And pay into a pension pot that I can control.
banjo · 87w
You've 100% missed the problem Lyn (sorry). If the funds contributed to Social Security had been PROPERLY managed and invested, the system would work. It's simply actuarial math...and yes it should be adjusted periodically (again if it had been properly managed) but that's just part of the process....
hopey · 87w
Exact same problem in Finland. It's a pyramid scheme.
Aintdatsumish · 87w
I am Gen x and I am positive I will not receive any SS. But who GAF! I created my own retirement.🤡🌎
Liberty Farmer · 87w
The changes to the costs and cola increases botched it. You can't 'pay into it' in 20-30 years ago tax amounts and collect in today's present value. Insanely easy to grasp scam.
FlyoverJoe · 87w
choo choo
Creediator · 87w
So keep raising the retirement age? Work yourself to the most unhealthy days of your lives.
E · 87w
Would appreciate your thoughts on real estate in the context of the value that the Baby Boomers will inevitably pass on to their kids. While they may have deprived the younger generations of home-ownership and the future value of “entitlements,” bricks and mortar might be their most meaningful...
nostrich · 87w
Social security is a huge Cantillon scam. The govt and their fascist cronyies on wall st get your money today at full value and give it back to you as inflated , devalued money sometime in the future. They throw you some bones from interest and investment returns, but the big returns go to Wall St. ...
I)ruid · 87w
Ok so hear me out... Instead of requiring that employees pay into Social Security, the State requires that this amount be converted into bitcoin sent to a time-locked address that YOU hold the keys to, that is locked until whatever the "retirement age" was when you started employment. Different po...
Jer · 87w
Thank you for your service. GM! 🫡