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One of the things I almost never see mentioned in the various climate debates is the observation that Earth is historically on the cooler side and is rising from that very low base.

The planet has historically gone through multiple cycles of not having polar ice caps and then having them again, etc. Over millions of years. There's been a really long-term feedback loop there.

I'm not a climate scientist by any stretch, but I just find that general omission in public discussions around it to be interesting.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-hottest-earths-ever-been

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Solar flares and pole shifts

retired npub · 86w

Why do you think it would be included? In public discussion the concern is effects on human survival and economic/geopolitical displacement due to human-caused climate change. Nonhuman-caused climate change is largely out of our control, but I suppose we could study cooling periods to come up with n...

Marec1971 · 86w

Interesting how they always leave out this part when trying to make the point that everything is happening “very fast” now and is also “100% certainly” caused by humans

9sirtom5 · 86w

yup https://m.primal.net/JzWY.jpg

Sats Dragon · 86w

Not ignored but omitted by the popular science public facing articles. Just like monitory supply, the rate is important. The earth has been hotter and colder in the past but the rate of change was often much slower (geologic time scale) not generational. Also, changes in the past were due to natural...

Judge Hardcase · 86w

What I almost never see is any humility regarding uncertainty. There's a chasm of difference between definitive certainty and making a best guess based on the available data. Particularly regarding such a complex system, a high enough uncertainty in the data that's not yet available could easily r...

Hiram K. Hackenbacker · 86w

This is a site that explains a lot about the science related to the climate madness: https://clintel.nl Mind you: they are not denying that the climate is changing, but they put things in their proper perspective, as you did with your remark that the earth has gone through multiple cold/warm perio...

RebelOfBabylon · 86w

I don't think that is omitted from the conversation especially because compared to previous warmer eras with no ice at the poles, the change in temperature occurred over millions of years so life had a chance to slowly adapt. Which is not at all the same as what's happening now.

Manánguri · 86w

You give investment strategies but your using bullshit pushed our by fossil fuel industries. Even your "qualifications' are bullshit. So, you're a lying scammer like all 'financial advisors'.

i think it's not mentioned cuz the debate isn't about planet earth being in danger, as much as it is about humans being in danger.

interesting or suspicious?

Mass Formation · 86w

Same. I have also sent this chart to Antonio Guterres after his delusional takes on clima

A lot of detail is missed when something becomes so politicized. The omission in some cases is no doubt deliberate. There have been significant changes in temperature in the past. Nonetheless, what is arguably different vs. prior “cycles” nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c...

Interesting. Those responsible for the current narrative always omit part of the truth. They seem to believe that we will interpret the facts incorrectly. We may well be accelerating global warming but we are in a warming cycle. I am interested to know more about what the earth was like when it was ...

Bitshack · 86w

climate change is geoengineering

Because the problem it's not about being in certain values of CO2 or temperature, but about breaking the equilibrium and the velocity of the change. https://image.nostr.build/3bd07dcb93787180c859304571b8c2b1de9496bfa6c0da9e1ba7c15fdbab00c8.jpg Also, this is not a problem for the planet Earth, but ...

RuiPanther · 86w

Read this book and cannot recomend enough. E. Kirsten Peters The Whole Story of Climate: What Science Reveals About the Nature of Endless Change So nice to cut through the noise and present the facts of what we know. It focus mostly on the last 2 million years, as those years can be precisely meas...

MickBurke · 86w

You can't tax 'The planet going through multiple cycles of not having polar ice caps and then having them again'. Nor does that scare anyone. That's why 'science' doesn't acknowledge that reality.