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What are the best arguments in favor of ending birthright citizenship and against ending birthright citizenship? Links or comments would be appreciated.

I just read the US Catholic bishops' amicus brief on the Supreme court case currently awaiting judgment and feel like there's just more to it than what I read there.

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Zsubmariner · 2w
A nation is a people not a border. There is no Catholic reason for it that I can see, but I haven't read the brief. I'm sure they make an argument from charity, but charity for whom? Given the USCCB's questionable involvement with certain funding channels, I would prefer they stay out of it and tend...
CR45H 0V3RR1D3 · 2w
If you end birthright citizenship then you just opened the door for Cheeto Hitler to deport whoever the hell he likes, or in this context, hates.. Of course, that also means that the next president could kick him and his wife out of the country, he’s just too god damned stupid to realize this.....
21_21_21 · 2w
Logistical reality matters more here than philosophy. Even if birthright citizenship was dumb and we didn't want it, what are we going to do with those people? We can't deport them, no other country wants them either, especially since they're not from any country except for this one. We could pay a...
Guy Chatting · 2w
The Book of Kings
DecBytes · 2w
The 14th amendment aimed to ensure citizenship of freed slaves after the civil war. It did not aim to create an industry of Anchor Babies that would bypass the legal immigration process. A amendment to guarantee justice to a historical group is now being applied to all groups. See Professor Lino Gra...
Laeserin · 2w
Instead of citizenship at birth (for anyone) do permanent residence for 18 years and then they can apply to have that extended for 10 years, or they can apply for citizenship. It is already the case that your US citizen parents can apply to get you a passport, if you are under 18 and not a citizen. ...
DecBytes · 2w
Thomas Sowell also had some good views on this in Migration and Culture.This is a good starting point. His main point is that culture matters and immigration is not per definition good, but could also disintegrate a society. https://nationalaffairs.com/storage/app/uploads/public/58e/1a4/eb3/58e1a4e...
Laeserin · 2w
The USCCB argument is correct. The Constitution clearly allows birthright citizenship for anyone born in the country, whose parent(s) didn't explicitly refuse to enter the legal jurisdiction (i.e. diplomats, visiting military or political delegations, temporary visa holders, etc.) before arriving. ...
DecBytes · 2w
Just a general comment... My thinking is that the union was started by Christians (majority Protestants & minority Catholics) that believed certain rights granted by their Creator. These rights are granted to both believers and non-believers. These rights sprung from a Christian society and will on...
DecBytes · 2w
'Before the Fourteenth Amendment was passed in 1868, numerous laws in both the North and the South specified different treatment for black and white citizens. More such laws were passed in the South after the Civil War andβ€”particularly in the case of sweeping β€œvagrancy” lawsβ€”virtually reensl...
DecBytes · 2w
Apologies for the messages. This is the last. Included is 2 minutes pro versus 2 minutes against birthright citizenship. The against is where I also stand, which is the legal jurisdiction clause. https://youtu.be/vjDtD7oy-Qw
nostrich · 2w
against: birth tourism in industrial scale by chinese: https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/us-senators-introduce-bill-to-end-birth-tourism-highlighting-large-numbers-from-china-3416271 https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/ccp-exploiting-birth-tourism-in-america-on-an-industrial-scale-peter-schwei...
Nusa · 2w
There’s a well documented paper trail of the post-1991 citizenship / legal-status fallout after the breakup of the SFRY for how citizenship choice + residence status was operationalized and litigated. It ended up discussed at the European Court of Human Rights and Council of Europe. You can look u...