wow…who did this…make #[1] mad. No zap for them.

Ethernets vs internet.

I agree. An open protocol distributed with no license is good for the world. I am experiencing problems with some apps and make me mad what some clients do backdoors with weird calculations on how many followers twitter-marketing-like ideas.....

Not convinced by this. I've no objection if people build commercial email client programs on top of SMTP, say, or commercial web browsers. Doesn't affect the underlying protocol.

Yah, if a client is pulling the same data multiple times, between navigations, it's harmful, IMHO. It should cache and index locally. Right?

It boils down to enforcement. We can’t enforce it. All we can do is encourage and incentivize open development on Nostr and outcompete proprietary usage.

Eh... Open protocols are open. Pretty much inevitable that this happens. 🤷‍♂️

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other stuff

yeah that’s what NostrCash is for

You lose control of the monster after its creation.

I fully agree and unfortunately, if something is made possible, people will just do it. Whether it is good or bad, humans create beautiful things like you did but have a natural ability to also destroy them. [777725]

Assuming relays would be able to deny access to an app like this right? ELI5 plz 😂

Thanks...could you tell us the bad effects of doing so?

People tend to abuse free things

Problem lies in the "free" part of it. It must not be free. Good for start to attract enthusiasts. But it must be sustainable in the long run, thus paid.

relays could make it a condition of use that software using them is under open source license

nostr hasnt solved how to distribute content well yet, p2p with financial incentives would be good

Nonsense. It's open, Freedom Zero. If you wanted to control its use, it would necessarily have failed. As for anthropomorphising it and becoming the arbiter of the desires of a piece of code, in fact not even code, a protocol described in English, is typical of the censorship one thought this pro...

I thought it would be fine as long as I hosted the relay but then I was like wait.. why don’t I just use a database?

so what is the right way to phrase it? apps that integrate with nostr? apps built FOR nostr? I thought it's a protocol for notes and other stuff. what is the other stuff, if not anything else?

Nostr is just a protocol isn’t it? Any two nodes can talk in Nostr. If they use public relays, the “databases” are not private

So let's assume I am indexing nostr notes for a search project. Can I still comply by e.g. open sourcing my code, maybe providing a NIP-50 like endpoint? What else can/should I do to atone? (Or should I be morally prohibited to index notes "centrally"?)

I think all apps should be built on nostr. It’s just a way to share data. Clients can implement many different schemas via the NIP process. Each message should be self describing.

Beautiful to see those qualities! 🤍🕊️What’s your name darling :)

How do you plan to stop someone doing this given the nature of nostr?

The protocol being widely used should be a good thing. Shouldn’t we differentiate between the protocol and the network of nostr relays. The operators of the network of nostr relays should be able to control access, protocol support, and more. A network made up of free public, paid public, privat...

doesn't the relay DBs have auto expiry by default ?