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Jared Logan · 4d
Eternal life is truly given, but it can be freely rejected because grace doesn’t cancel free will. Salvation is a real relationship, and relationships can be abandoned and they can improve. At the ...
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I have much to say, but I will try to stick with this text: Jesus says the person who believes already has eternal life. In other words, the believer already has possession of unending bliss, and the happy enjoyment of it in Christ, who Himself is the true God and eternal life (1 John 5:20). (Eph. 2:6 goes so far as to say a believer is already seated with Christ in the heavenly places, at the Father's right hand). And He says this believing person does not come under judgment. He says they have already passed from death to life.

Is the Roman position that a person raised from the dead to eternal life (the happy possession of endless bliss) can still die and come under judgment?
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Jared Logan · 4d
Yes, a person in a state of grace can lose that state through mortal sin. I read 1 John 5:20 and Ephesians 2:6 as describing the gift of eternal life, not its guarantee against apostasy. I'd lean into [CCC 1428-1429] on 'second conversion' as an ongoing, lifelong process for baptized Christians. It'...